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    Default Replacing tip in tailstock centre

    Dear all,

    The little tip in the live center that sits in the tailstock has become slightly deformed and does not run true. The bearing part of the mechanism is fine, it's only the metal tip that sits inside the bearing and is tightened with a grub screw that needs fixing. I've been told that I need to buy the whole unit, any ideas for a replacement? Has anyone turned up their own?

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    Default Live Center point

    Tiger,
    While I do not know how the point in your live center is shaped, many fit into a tapered hole (you say yours is held in with a set screw). Anyway, if your live center will fit into the Morris Taper of your headstock, pop the complete live center unit out of your tailstock, and insert it into your headstock spindle. Wrap a bit of strong tape around the outer rotating part, and secure it to the Morris taper shaft/spindle threads to keep it from rotating. Now turn on the lathe, and reshape the pointed part with a fine cut file.
    Presto, good as new point.
    Also, I sometimes need a soft point so as not to mar a piece, and I will remove the steel point and turn a wood point (or other shape) to take its place.

    -- Wood Listener--

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    Thanks, Gil for taking the time to reply to my thread, the tip has an angle of about 60 degrees. I will give your method a try, by the way do your wooden tips last long and what type of wood do you use?

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    Default Live Center Tip/Point

    60° tips are normal, I was referring to the shape of the end
    that seats into the bearing (I just did not say it clearly). The only reason I mentioned how the backend of the tip was shaped is that if it is straight (not tapered) you can pop it out of the bearing and into a drill press chuck, or even into your scroll chuck for re shaping.
    My wooden/rubber/plastic/etc. homemade tips sometimes last a
    good long while, and sometimes not. It just depends what I am using it for. One thing is for sure; they are very inexpensive because they are mostly made from scraps.
    Good luck re-truing your steel tip.

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    Gil, the part that seats in the bearing is not tapered luckily, it is cylindrical with a small flat to take the grub screw. I'll try the drill press, any tips on how to position the file so that the point of the tip is filed true?

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    Default True is automatic

    Tiger, just lightly file the same 60° angle that you have now (or modify the angle) and the cone will be as true as the spindle you are using for the work (automatically).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiger
    Dear all,

    The little tip in the live center that sits in the tailstock has become slightly deformed and does not run true. The bearing part of the mechanism is fine, it's only the metal tip that sits inside the bearing and is tightened with a grub screw that needs fixing. I've been told that I need to buy the whole unit, any ideas for a replacement? Has anyone turned up their own?
    Tiger - I had the same thing happen to mine and it turned out that the bearing had twisted in the housing. I pressed it back into place a couple of times then got fed up :mad: and bought a multi-tipped set from McJings - very handy unit.
    .
    Updated 8th of February 2024

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gil Jones

    The only reason I mentioned how the backend of the tip was shaped is that if it is straight (not tapered) you can pop it out of the bearing and into a drill press chuck, or even into your scroll chuck for re shaping.
    Gil, it didn't work out so well in the headstock taper, but it worked a lot better in the drill press, so thanks for that.

    By the way, how would you true the tip if it did have a tapered backend as I reckon mine might have a small taper?:confused:

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    Default Point

    Tiger,
    Glad that it worked out for you, but I think TTIT has a good 'point' about the condition of the bearing(s). If your live center will not run true in the headstock spindle (and it should), the live center bearing(s) could be bad. My point base is tapered so I just leave it in the live center, put it in the headstock spindle, tape the outside so it (and the point) cannot move, and file it true with the lathe on slowest speed (480 rpm).

    -- Wood Listener--

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    I would buy a good quality tail stock centre,a Woodfast or similar. Most centres that come with lathes are absolute crap that really don't work properly.

    My opinion only.

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    , by crap, do you mean they don't run true or the steel is soft and deforms easily?

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