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14th August 2006, 08:56 PM #1
Sharpening
Another query for the woodturning gurus.
I just watched Raffans DVD on woodturning and he free hand sharpens everything. When I did my course at tafe, we used jigs for everything. What do others do? I am happy freehanding any other tools like drill bits, chisels and plane irons.
I saw a scobie jig at the Sydney wood show and it seemed to do a lot for the price. Any opinions?
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14th August 2006, 10:10 PM #2
Just freehand it AD, the jigs are invented & marketed for those who don't have the necessary skills and/or don't want to persevere to learn them.
Different strokes for diff. folks, that's all.
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14th August 2006, 10:28 PM #3China
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I've been sharpening freehand for 35 years it just takes a bit of time and patiance to get it right and I know I will cop some flak over this, but it is just not as critical as some would have you beleive
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14th August 2006, 11:20 PM #4
Well, I too did the TAFE bit and one of the gentlemen there kindly made us guides (I made them tool rolls) that I now have fixed to the front of the grinder - I wouldn't be without it. In my opinion I waste less of my tools and get consistent angles. But hey, I don't have the Y chromosome!!
JD
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15th August 2006, 01:08 PM #5Ex trade turner
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Yeah i used the jigs at TAFE but thats the only place i used them because the teacher told us we have to, in the trade id do it freehand and not worry about angles etc just like at TAFE they make you use an angled skew were mine was straight so i could use it as a parting tool aswell. I think TAFE did it a bit old fashioned cause its not like that anymore. Like china said it is not as critical as some would have u believe.
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15th August 2006, 04:46 PM #6
Freehand. When I'm turning I want to be turning, not faffing around using jigs.
There are some tools that are best sharpened with jigs, some of Sorby's more specialised stuff for example. Ring cutters and the like. Some people also find it impossible to freehand the swept-back wings on "ladyfinger" gouges (Ellsworth grind?) and should use a jig just for that.
But for normal, everyday profiles on tools such as skews, scrapers and gouges? Nah, not worth the effort or the expense. [shrug] After all, the avg person only loses a cm or two of tool steel in learning to get each profile right and from then on there's plenty of practice in honing the skills...
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15th August 2006, 05:26 PM #7Retired
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Originally Posted by Skew ChiDAMN!!
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15th August 2006, 08:15 PM #8Originally Posted by
Why is this???
CheersCheers Dy.|a.n.....
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15th August 2006, 10:16 PM #9
with a little bit of practise, freehand is very quick, easy and yes, free.
everything is something, for a reason:confused:
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15th August 2006, 10:30 PM #10
I'll stick my hand up and go against the flow! I managed to stuff up many centimetres of tool steel before I got my Unijig, now my lady finger detail gouges can match it with the best of them and I only lose a fraction of a millimetre each time it gets too blunt for the hone to work. I don't do enough turning to ever get enough practice at freehand sharpening.
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Graeme
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15th August 2006, 10:39 PM #11
I'm with Graeme... I have tried heaps of things & the Unijig or the gouge attachement for the Tormek on an 8" white wheel on the normal grinder is the best combination for me. (for gouges that is)
I just use a flat rest for scrapers & a Hiturn for my skews.
A Hiturn is like a flat rest with sliding angle.
I can take photos if anyone is interested.Cliff.
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15th August 2006, 10:57 PM #12
Cliff I would be interested in seeing some pics...
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15th August 2006, 11:09 PM #13
I'll take some tomorrow morning.
Cliff.
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15th August 2006, 11:51 PM #14
Woodturners sharpen freehand and get right on turning, those who aren't prefer rooting around use jigs....
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16th August 2006, 01:07 AM #15
sandpaper
HI all,
I use sandpaper to sharpen everything. The paper I use is good stuff with adhesive back, mounted to a piece of glass. 80, 120, 320, 1500. Then I move to 8000 stone. 80 grit is for stuff that really needs help. If I'm just honing I go straight to the 1500 with some jewlers rouge and then to 8000. When I do the curved side of gouges and stuff like that, I just wrap a small piece of sandpaper around a proper sized dowel and use that. The system works well for me, tools are razor sharp and I don't need to buy or set up any jigs.
Regards
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