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25th January 2014, 04:40 PM #1
My first simple segmented turning
I've been lucky so far, so thought I'd raise the bar a bit and try a simple segmented project this time.
Nowhere near as nice as most of the segmented stuff I see here, but personally I'm just pleased (and surprised) that I pulled it off without ending up as I started - with a pile of loose segments.
It's made from some old, (read 'very dry and brittle'), Tas Oak, and finished with four coats of MinWax water-based satin WOP.
a. Main.JPG b. Bottom.JPG c. Profile.JPG
The brittle timber caused me no end of dramas. It had very fine checking right through it, and small slivers kept breaking away from the surface. I tried to stabilise each splinter along the way with CA. The last of it is still visible through the poly on the bottom.)
Still, all's well that ends well.
I know poly isn't really a suitable finish, but I was reticent to leave the bottom unsealed, and this ashtray is only for me, smoking rollies. They go out by themselves, without 'stubbing'.
On the next one, I'm thinking of experimenting with poly on the outside, top and inside edges, but just rubbing silicon spray into the bottom to provide a bit of a seal. Silicon is the most heat-proof thing I can think of. The poly could never be repaired/refinished afterwards, though.
All comments welcome.
Disclaimer: I'm not encouraging or even condoning cigarette smoking, but while there are still us stupid smokers, ashtrays are needed.... Steve
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25th January 2014, 05:35 PM #2Retired
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Polyurethane, CA, ultra dry wood, fire....what could possibly go wrong.
I like the bowl, segmented turning looks like great fun.
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25th January 2014, 05:45 PM #3
Nothing would ever catch fire.
Try getting a piece of hardwood to burn with a cigarette, especially a roll-your-own.
I've been using an ashtray of the same timber, but unfinished, for a year now. Not a mark on the timber, except cigarette ash.
In reality, since it's my first segmented turning, this ashtray will really most likely sit on the shelf and never be used. I like keeping the first of each type of thing that I make.... Steve
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25th January 2014, 06:37 PM #4SENIOR MEMBER
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Well done
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Hi Hermit,
You have started on the slippery slope of segmented turning and you have started well indeed you're joint's are good and you're segment's are on centre by the look of it so from here on you just need to get some pattern's going and you will be away you're going to drive yourself crazy enjoy.
Regards Rod.
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25th January 2014, 09:17 PM #7
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25th January 2014, 09:24 PM #8
Nice shape again there Steve,
but ashtrays are like that aren't they.
What about a small polished brass plate glued into the bottom to help with heat distribution of smokes.
You're meant to be able to true it up with wood tools, hot glue to a block and turn it nice and round.
Time to get on with the VW's caravan or the FJ. You're having to much fun with that lathe....
Peter
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25th January 2014, 10:31 PM #9
Thanks Phil, fozz and Jim. Your comments are much appreciated.
Originally Posted by Rod Gilbert
I've already got my next planned, with a pattern around it. It was gonna be the first, but I thought I'd better slow down and make the ashtray first, for practice.
Yeah, Pete, a pretty standard ashtray shape. I was picturing one of those cheap supermarket glass ones when I drew it up.
I considered a brass plate inset into the bottom, a good idea I reckon, but don't have any brass laying around and din't want to spend too much on this. Still watching the budget, saving for timber.
It's probably the best idea for future ones, though. Only drawback is that expansion of the brass might split the joints in the base, but the base could easily be one piece instead of segmented.
I will get back onto a scale model soon, the VW's caravan before the FC, but first I want to play with turning exclusively for a bit, until I feel that I have the hang of it. So far I've been woodturning for all of 7 weeks. Must make me an expert.
(My brother has a 1928 Essex Super-Six that he's restored and wants me to make a model of too. Busy, busy, busy.)... Steve
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25th January 2014, 10:38 PM #10
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25th January 2014, 10:54 PM #11
A preview. Should be fun to build, and lots of black for my ebonising.:
RHS.jpg
Next though, before anything else, is another lidded box similar to the first, but a little bigger and hopefully better, from a nice chunk of NSW Scented Rosewood that I got from the Woodsmith a couple of weeks ago.... Steve
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26th January 2014, 05:36 AM #12
Good job on the segmented ashtray Steve that is more than I have done which is 2 segmented rings then turned.
It is not good for you turning and smoking they both can empty the pocket quickly. This is from someone who did both and managed to give one up you probably guess which as I am still turning
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26th January 2014, 11:54 AM #13
Thanks Derek. Mine's not much bigger - 3 rings, and the bottom one is only 4 segments. Good fun, though. I can't wait to make something a little bigger, with contrasting timbers. Eventually, I want to give missing segment turning a shot. I love the effects/patterns that can be created. I've just got to find some decent timber for it.
Yeah, smoking.... I hate it and promise myself regularly that I'll stop, but keep going regardless. I'm down to one pack of tobacco a fortnight, but that's still $40 better spent elsewhere, to say nothing of the lung damage. I'll have to make a more concerted effort (soon).
I took WIP pics along the way as I made the ashtray, from drawing to finished item.
I wasn't planning on a WIP thread, but I've attached them in a pdf file, for comments/suggestions.
If anyone into segmented turning feels like taking a look, I'd appreciate it if you could let me know what I'm doing wrongly, or what I can do better using another method. There's plenty of room for improvement, I think, before I tackle a bigger segmented project.
_Build Pics.pdf... Steve
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26th January 2014, 11:49 PM #14Sometimes in the daily challenges that life gives us, we miss what is really important...
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26th January 2014, 11:53 PM #15
Thanks Jim. I'll do that. Sounds like just what I need.
Edit: I just found this ( https://www.woodworkforums.com/f8/mak...d-vase-174358/ ) one and read through it. A well put together WIP. You have some good tips to incorporate into my method. I'll re-read it in the morning in case I missed anything and then look for any others.... Steve
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