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    Yep, there are some sales people that talk so smoothly, know the product and engineer confidence that you know it's a spiel, but you go away with the product and feeling good about buying it.

    Then there are the pushy type, that would try to sell you any chattel, just to get a sale.

    (I know "chattel" is probably not the correct word to use, but you can replace it with what ever euphemism you like, it's a family friendly forum here.)
    Pat
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    Hi,
    We still get ripped off even if the rip off artists are rear these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pat View Post

    Then there are the pushy type, that would try to sell you any chattel, just to get a sale.
    And, when they are the buyer they are just as tiresome... they always try to haggle the price down! It's a game for them or a deep seated need to always get the upper hand.

    One of their ruses at the gallery is to find something that they reckon is a flaw in a piece and try to bargain the price down because of that. Fortunately for me my gallery owner tells them 'that's a feature' or 'yes, it's wood, that's what wood does' and, furthermore, it is already a bargain at the asking price...
    Stay sharp and stay safe!

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    I must stop trying to hide my... features

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    I've had some sales in recent months as the interstate border restrictions have been eased.

    Got a call from my gallery owner this last week wanting to 'refresh' my display. Cant't blame him as most of what he has of mine has been there for over a year now. You have to keep in mind that the gallery staff have to live with what you give them and naturally they like to have something new to look at, especially when sales are slow, as they have been this last twelve months.

    Anyway, I have put together a dozen or so 'new' pieces to 'freshen up' my display. That's more than my usual half dozen or so pieces at a time that I take to him as backfill for the pieces that have sold. Here they are. Largest is the 20" Camphor platter at the back. Most expensive is the 12"d x 8"h spalted Sycamour Maple urn with blackwood lid near the back, and the smallest is the 5" bowl in very old Regum near the front left. The larger pieces won't move quickly, but they do get attention, which can lead to sales of the smaller and more affordable pieces.
    How are the sales going now for others?
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    Lucky I have a day job!
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    from what i can see out there, "rustic chic" seems to be the way things are going. I went to Kirribili markets a few weeks ago and there was a lot of activity going on, and i am actually surprised at what passes muster for sale these days. there were several notable tables spruking their wares, one bloke who was selling some overtly thick walled burl bowls which when turned over revealed a hastily finished sanding job showing where the mounting foot had been removed. ok, minor detail in the scheme of things, but to me, unfinished, reasonably priced though. and another table. wow, talk about playing on "the stupidity of others", well this pair preyed on it. they were selling scrap timber off cuts that wouldn't even fit an entire block of cheese on it for $95. things that not one person on this forum would find useful other than as kindling. i had to ask, what makes this worth $95, (half expecting it to have provenance from an old beam from Harbour bridge, "it's oak" she says, i said "and?" she seemed stunned that anyone would have the gall to ask her, wow. she didnt have 1 useful sized piece of timber on her stall, yet a few slashes with a stanley knife, a quick sand, a wipe of overly diluted stain and bobs your uncle (sorry Bob) a rustic useless piece of nothing, but guess what, your up there cos you bought something rare...... not.

    sort of made me feel sorry for the bloke that turned the bowls as he probably sold less than the girls did, and they put in far less effort.

    sorry if that upset some of you, but boy was i p'd

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    First chance to sell something for a year coming up this weekend at our club sale at Kiama . Fingers crossed .
    Ted

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    They buy this "Oak" of which you speak as it's Real WoodTM

    The peons don't know Real WoodTM exists any more.


    Their sole exposure to this substance is via Bunnings "timber" a.k.a Pine, Ikea fall apart Wheat Bix, various reconstituted compressed kitchen fittings and cheap BBQ furniture imported from Indonesian old growth rain forests.

    Oak is as rare as hens teeth or a real Martyrs Relic....


    A $95 book-sized board of "Oak" is a treasure to show the friends! A true find!

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodPixel View Post
    A $95 book-sized board of "Oak" is a treasure to show the friends! A true find!
    Was this piece of oak in the shape of a chopping board? If so, $95 is the going price!

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    Quote Originally Posted by turnerted View Post
    First chance to sell something for a year coming up this weekend at our club sale at Kiama . Fingers crossed .
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    your churning the miles just for a sale there Ted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodPixel View Post
    They buy this "Oak" of which you speak as it's Real WoodTM

    The peons don't know Real WoodTM exists any more.


    Their sole exposure to this substance is via Bunnings "timber" a.k.a Pine, Ikea fall apart Wheat Bix, various reconstituted compressed kitchen fittings and cheap BBQ furniture imported from Indonesian old growth rain forests.

    Oak is as rare as hens teeth or a real Martyrs Relic....


    A $95 book-sized board of "Oak" is a treasure to show the friends! A true find!
    Nope, it was about 300mm long, 25mm thick and it was tappered out from a 25 mm handle out to 100mm wide at the farthest end. Trust me it you couldnt even fit a small block of mersey valley on it!!

    so going by that calculation, i sitting $1m worth of Timber in my shed. Consisting or real timbers - oak, Ebony, Gidgee, zebrano, Tassie blackwood, sassafras, burls, Northern and Southern silky oak.... whah, i can now tell my son that we are rich and yes ya dad's still a tight a-se.... hahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by turnerted View Post
    First chance to sell something for a year coming up this weekend at our club sale at Kiama . Fingers crossed .
    Ted
    All the best there, Ted.
    Stay sharp and stay safe!

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    On prices, whatever it is, it is only worth as much as someone is will to pay for it.

    I mainly turn bowls and they retail at the gallery for at least 10x what you could buy a wooden bowl for from somewhere like Target, eg., this Acacia one, for $8.

    I recently sold this similar sized Acacia (Blackwood) bowl for a gallery price of $105 (of which I got $60).

    They aren't just buying a wooden bowl. They could do that for less than 1/10th of that price at Target. They are paying a premium for the value they find in the piece beyond mere utility.

    Fortunately for some of us they keep making that judgement. Not that any of us are going to be able to make a comfortable living from just turning, but many of us keep doing it because it is a very pleasant thing to be doing!

    On the percentages that galleries take, mine deserves every bit it gets. I'm very happy to not be involved in the selling side. But, if you prefer to be involved in markets, club exhibitions, etc., then you will get a bit more back into your pocket for your retail efforts. I understand that some turners even enjoy that sort of thing...

    And, every piece you sell helps pay for that next turning tool...
    Stay sharp and stay safe!

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    Fumbler . Not just churning miles . I use to live there fulltime but now just a part time resident .
    Ted

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