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    Default Smallish lathe commission? what might i expect to pay?

    Hi all, i saw a lamp the other day online that i think i might just need, though the real thing is so far out of normal people's price ranges it aint funny...$24,000 to $32,000 depending on where you go...

    As a result, i was wondering, would anyone be happy enough to more or less copy a design and how much do you think it'd cost? I'm not going to be holding anyone close to their word at this point, i'm just more curious as to what the general thoughts on pricing might be?

    The lamp in question http://fab.cba.mit.edu/classes/863.1...lathe-lamp.jpg its made from anodized aluminium

    For this version i'd say at its widest point it'd measure roughly 40cm in diameter at the widest point of the shade, and about 36cm from the base to the top.

    I'm not overly fussed over material choice, be it in be it in wood, mdf, plastic or whatever else, (provided its within a reasonable price range and can hold the same level of detail and sharp lines)

    I'd also like some ideas about how it could possibly be made without a lathe if i had to? Would building it up in layers from differently sized rings and circles of wood or some other material work?

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    Uuuum! There could be a reason why its so expensive. :S Getting lumps of anything that big to turn is hard. Getting the lathe big enough to turn it is hard. Getting the bloke/blokette experienced enough to turn it is hard. And also he is a really famous artist that exhibits in London and New york. His pieces are turned on a CNC lathe. You have one of his "simple" pieces there. But that is only relative.:S And it would also be stealing his design.

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    If you come up with a design of your own with his work as an inspiration we could talk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tea lady View Post
    Uuuum! There could be a reason why its so expensive. :S Getting lumps of anything that big to turn is hard. Getting the lathe big enough to turn it is hard. Getting the bloke/blokette experienced enough to turn it is hard. And also he is a really famous artist that exhibits in London and New york. His pieces are turned on a CNC lathe. You have one of his "simple" pieces there. But that is only relative.:S And it would also be stealing his design.

    sebastian brajkovic: lathe for carpenters workshop at new york art fair | designboom

    If you come up with a design of your own with his work as an inspiration we could talk.
    Lol, Don't worry i wasn't planning on an exact copy, and either way i wouldnt be creating it to sell it, as for the material to make it from, is it not possible to turn laminated pieces of wood? or to turn a set of sections and then assemble them all later?

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    That thing looks a bit like an accident that has happened to someone trying to make a set of pullies for their lathe!

    It would be fairly easy to make something like that from bits of mdf. Anything like wood and it would be a complete waste of it
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    It looks remarkable similar to the turnings commissioned of one of our club members, follow down to page 4 on this link to our club magazine.

    http://www.avon-and-bristol-woodturn...gs_07_2012.pdf

    His work was based upon stock market movements!
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    wow mmm thats got my mind thinking mmm might use that idea and create something from it

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr4g0nfly View Post
    It looks remarkable similar to the turnings commissioned of one of our club members, follow down to page 4 on this link to our club magazine.

    http://www.avon-and-bristol-woodturn...gs_07_2012.pdf

    His work was based upon stock market movements!
    oooh, its nice to see some of the techniques behind his work, i've seen another piece of his, except it was apparently based on the seismograph levels of the tohoku earthquake

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr4g0nfly View Post
    It looks remarkable similar to the turnings commissioned of one of our club members, follow down to page 4 on this link to our club magazine.

    http://www.avon-and-bristol-woodturn...gs_07_2012.pdf

    His work was based upon stock market movements!
    That does look interesting.

    Maybe you could get a "read out of your name or something?
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    All of this is very interesting,but, I wonder where you folks get all your info from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cookie48 View Post
    All of this is very interesting,but, I wonder where you folks get all your info from.
    Meaning?
    Its not wonderfully difficult to find out the absolute basics of how things like these are made, nearly every website that features them will have some small description of it

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    I reckon it would be a simple job to segment.
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    I think most turners on this forum would do it for less than 32 big ones. That said is it worth doing at all. In art the name is everything.
    The look is due to the material so wood or mdf would not be there. To my mind bronze would be the thing to set that design off but then you get up to the big bucks again. Tea lady had it right. It is not a smallish commision and most will be wary of doing a direct copy.
    To answer the other bit of the question it could be done without a lathe. Circles of wood,plastic,MDF or other materials could be done on a router with circle cutting jig then layered.
    The outcome can be done cheap but will never be anything other than a cheap cheap copy.
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    Still think the "cheap" version would be pretty expensive. We (as in ) had a job fall through that was going to be out of large disks of MDF. The price of that stuff made him pretty mad (as in rope-able )at the guy.
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    I'm fine with it still costing a bit, as in maybe up to three or four thousand, but at the moment i'm pretty much just looking around into what other people think and alternative ways of making it Thanks everyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by orraloon View Post
    I think most turners on this forum would do it for less than 32 big ones. That said is it worth doing at all. In art the name is everything.
    The look is due to the material so wood or mdf would not be there. To my mind bronze would be the thing to set that design off but then you get up to the big bucks again. Tea lady had it right. It is not a smallish commision and most will be wary of doing a direct copy.
    To answer the other bit of the question it could be done without a lathe. Circles of wood,plastic,MDF or other materials could be done on a router with circle cutting jig then layered.
    The outcome can be done cheap but will never be anything other than a cheap cheap copy.
    Regards
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    I'm happy to do it despite it being essentially a copy or a piece inspired by it that closely resembles it despite it not having the name of the original artist, at the end of the day i'd love it just as much whether a big name artist made it or whether it was cobbled together by a handyman in his back shed.
    I'm definitely not averse to the idea of building it up from lots of smaller circles and rings though (depending on the sort of result that method would achieve.

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