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    Question Tailstocks

    One thing that really came home to me when I was trying to sort out the lathe I had borrowed here was the issue of the tailstock, not only on this, but on other lathes.

    Amos made a comment about tailstocks on metal lathes and that made me think about deficiencies in design in this area.

    I believe that a longer base on the tailstock and more precisely machined surfaces on both the lathe bed particularly the insides of the rails, and a more precisely matched mating area on the tailstock would solve a couple of problems.

    # Sideways slop would be eliminated or, at least minimized.

    # drilling on the lathe could be more precise.


    What do others think.??

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    hasnt been a problem with my woodfast or jet , you can check head and tail stock line up with a couple of dead centres . otherwise most wood lathes there is little adjustment , if you have a real problem suggest you post some pics,

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    Don't have a problem with my Tough either
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    Arthur I have posted a reply to Amos in my mini lathe thread

    https://www.woodworkforums.com/f69/bo...1/#post1081989

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Spencer View Post
    Don't have a problem with my Tough either
    Phil, as I said elsewhere, the Tough lathe looks like a nice bit of kit. However when all is aid and done it is at least 20-30 years old and a very basic wood lathe. According to Len Smith he wants about $1500-1600 for them.

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    # Sideways slop would be eliminated or, at least minimized.

    # drilling on the lathe could be more precise.

    What do others think.?

    Yes I agree this becomes an issue when you own something like a MC1100. Both head and tail stocks had this problem. I spent quite a few hours rectifying the headstock, got it to a point where it was reasonable.The tailstock I left as it was major hassle and doing bowls I more or less got away with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Shed View Post
    Phil, as I said elsewhere, the Tough lathe looks like a nice bit of kit. However when all is aid and done it is at least 20-30 years old and a very basic wood lathe. According to Len Smith he wants about $1500-1600 for them.
    Seems that some times old technology is better that new fangled technology
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Shed View Post
    Phil, as I said elsewhere, the Tough lathe looks like a nice bit of kit. However when all is aid and done it is at least 20-30 years old and a very basic wood lathe. According to Len Smith he wants about $1500-1600 for them.
    There ain't much more to a lathe is there?

    I think what some need is a way to adjust the tail stock. Some sort of screwy slidey mechanism. But then your little cheap lathe wouldn't be little and cheap anymore.
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    I think what some need is a way to adjust the tail stock. Some sort of screwy slidey mechanism. But then your little cheap lathe wouldn't be little and cheap anymore.
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    Default The tough,

    Hi All,
    Hey, we are talking Wood Lathes here, not precision made Metal Lathes.
    My "Tough" has been out by approx.1mm the last 19 years, & it hasn't made any difference to my work.
    I thought it was to big a job to tackle, so I just left it.
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    Metal lathes have V beds which works fine if you're only moving things along the V. A tool rest on a woodlathe needs to move in all directions so V beds wouldn't work.

    I've long thought that four bearings on the bottom of tailstocks to act as buffers would be good

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    Quote Originally Posted by issatree View Post
    Hi All,
    Hey, we are talking Wood Lathes here, not precision made Metal Lathes.
    My "Tough" has been out by approx.1mm the last 19 years, & it hasn't made any difference to my work.
    I thought it was to big a job to tackle, so I just left it.
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    Depends on the kind of work you do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by issatree View Post
    Hi All,
    Hey, we are talking Wood Lathes here, not precision made Metal Lathes.
    My "Tough" has been out by approx.1mm the last 19 years, & it hasn't made any difference to my work.
    I thought it was to big a job to tackle, so I just left it.
    Regards,
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    If my pen lathe was out by 1mm, my pens wouldn't look too round

    Quote Originally Posted by rsser View Post
    Depends on the kind of work you do.
    Yes, you got it in one Ern, if I was doing bowls or relatively big spindle work it wouldn't worry me too much. But on a 12mm pen, 1 mm is a lot of deviation.

    Even the 0.6mm the mini lathe is off centre on the headstock spindle is very significant, take out a set of feelr gauges and pick out the 25thou/0.6mm one and see how thick that is, then imagine your pen being out of round by that much

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkychicken View Post
    Metal lathes have V beds which works fine if you're only moving things along the V. A tool rest on a woodlathe needs to move in all directions so V beds wouldn't work.

    I've long thought that four bearings on the bottom of tailstocks to act as buffers would be good
    Not very difficult to do FC, look at the cross slide and the compound slide and saddle, very easy 3 way adjustments. Take away the precision dials and make it easier to adjust and you have more precision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Shed View Post
    If my pen lathe was out by 1mm, my pens wouldn't look too round



    Yes, you got it in one Ern, if I was doing bowls or relatively big spindle work it wouldn't worry me too much. But on a 12mm pen, 1 mm is a lot of deviation.

    Even the 0.6mm the mini lathe is off centre on the headstock spindle is very significant, take out a set of feelr gauges and pick out the 25thou/0.6mm one and see how thick that is, then imagine your pen being out of round by that much
    If you know it's out by that much why not put a shim that size under the tailstock on the appropriate side. Or machine a little off the other side???
    Just my 2c's,
    Steve

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