Taking a break

**oreos40** · 5th January 2015, 01:04 AM

This thread is a little on the intimidating side. There are some glaring faults here. First the email was written personally to one member. It is not anyone elses business what was said in that email or who it was. If the personal email had some validity the person should have felt that they could post it publicly. From some of the responses I can see why the person didn't feel free to voice their opinion openly. Hermit (Jim), handled his response poorly as it was initiated as a personal matter. Made public it can only cause trouble. It preempted choosing sides. Speculation whether wild or partially informed was sure to follow. Especially after the build up in this thread it could be very divisive and damaging to find the person was a friend of one and not of another. It is also fearful that so many would come to the same uneducated conclusion that ostracizing someone is the answer to the any problem. Many of you on one hand have protected Hermit's right to his opinion and in the same post denied the others right to an opinion. Life is a sharing process. We must all take the time to learn as well as teach. There is a lack of knowledge where one doesn't take the time to understand why someone else has a different opinion. Horror of horror's! they might be right! I am in forums on several sites. One thing I like about this forum is the diversity of thought. In some of the others every one is taught to have a hammer so everything becomes a nail. There if someone needs a special tool everyone posts a website to order it. Here someone might suggest considering sharpening a screwdriver instead. In the attitude of some of the posts in this thread this site appears to have a desire to become exclusive as well. I hope not!

**China** · 5th January 2015, 01:26 AM

I second That

**Mobyturns** · 5th January 2015, 09:12 AM

Unfortunately these matters become damaging & divisive very quickly. We have seen the results of such in the recent past. Very damaging for some individuals (either guilty or innocent) to have matters aired more publicly on the forum. Only more hurt & damage is done, whereas they could move on with their life without the burden of all knowing about it.

It is wise to keep in mind that the text of this forum (& many others) can be & is viewed by the general public.

**wheelinround** · 5th January 2015, 09:22 AM

In light of more recent information on this from Steve I will now step away myself from this thread.

To clarify I am still in support of Steve it is up to Steve to decide what to do from here on.

**Sawdust Maker** · 5th January 2015, 10:04 AM

To go back to the original post

Originally Posted by Hermit

... telling me that my opinions and suggestions on woodturning are not welcome by anyone here and that I should pull my head in, since I don't know what I'm talking about.
...

I think what I don't like about this (and others may agree or disagree) is that the email sender is purporting to speak on behalf of all whom frequent this part of the forum.

From the comments this seems to be incorrect.

If the sender had just emailed his/her position then I wouldn't particularly care and it may even be appropriate to keep such comments between members and private. But he/she has puported to speak on behalf of all of us, me included. Hermit has obviously annoyed the emailer is some fashion but to than say his posts are not welcome by anyone, maybe to give credence to the arguments, is what is annoying.

I don't want the emailer strung up but I think his/her behaviour is beyond the pale - notwithstanding what might be the cause of it. Bullying conduct was mentioned earlier, maybe this fits ...

In any event I do not think it is proper conduct for one member to blast another member by email or PM. If you don't like their posts than ignore them or block them.

We are a disparate bunch and no doubt will get on each others nerves on occasion. I'd suggest a little bit of give and take and no lambasting members

**rob streeper** · 6th January 2015, 07:56 AM

Originally Posted by Sawdust Maker

We are a disparate bunch and no doubt will get on each others nerves on occasion. I'd suggest a little bit of give and take and no lambasting members

As far as this site goes, I don't have any nerves to get on. This site is about hobby work for me and I don't want my hobbies to become a source of upset. I think some here take things said on the site way too seriously.

**Sawdust Maker** · 6th January 2015, 08:43 AM

This site has been likened to one big family...

Have you ever argued/feuded with your sister? Brother? Uncle? Dad?

**rob streeper** · 6th January 2015, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by Sawdust Maker

This site has been likened to one big family...

Have you ever argued/feuded with your sister? Brother? Uncle? Dad?

Of course, but I can't log off of them when they annoy me.

**ubeaut** · 6th January 2015, 08:50 AM

Over the years we have lost a lot of really excellent, genuine, informative and helpful members because of harassment, intimidation and similar. Some of us have thick hides and the poison arrows just bounce off, but not everyone has the ability, resilience or willpower to recover from such things.

Hermit (Steve) hasn't been back on line since posting this thread and after an email from him last night I doubt very much if he will ever be back again.

Another good member lost to harassment and in this case, it wasn't anonymous but from a person Hermit considered was a friend. He has chosen to keep the persons identity and email to himself. so the witch hunt and the recriminations end here and now.

Thank you to all who posted their support for Steve. Please do not send him any PM's as he will not be able to receive them.

This thread is now closed.

Neil

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