Thread: Taking a break

I am stunned!!!

Leaving shouldn't be an option for you Hermit.

Expulsion should be mandatory for the sender!!

Originally Posted by Hermit

I received a very offensive email this morning from a fellow member, telling me that my opinions and suggestions on woodturning are not welcome by anyone here and that I should pull my head in, since I don't know what I'm talking about.
In the light of this I've decided to take a break. Not happy, but if that's how it is, that's fine. I have broad shoulders. Have fun all.

I'm not sure what to say here

We all have our opinions and are free to express them openly on the forum - if wiser and more experienced minds find fault because of dangerous technique or whatever then they are free to openly comment. We all learn from that. As we all learn from each others different take on things. To make the comments in the form of an attack off forum is, in my view, something which is just not proper behaviour.

I can't recall ever seeing something you posted that I violently disagreed with or thought should not be said. And to follow this character's advice and take a break from the forums is just adding to their feeling of superiority. I suggest that you stand up to whoever it is and to get them to publish their comments without the veil of secrecy.

I know this is said after you've left but just wanted to add my voice to your support team

PS I regularly "don't know what I'm talking about". Wasn't aware that it was a hanging offence.

Hello Hermit,
Unfortunately with social media, some people act (and type) before they switch the headlights on. Don't be concerned, draw the line and move on. In a democracy, of which this Forum is part, all are entitled
to their views and a fundamental aspect is the mutual respect for others, even if you don't agree with their sentiments. I haven't met anyone (yet) who is the font of all knowledge - although we all will one day, eh. So battle on and don't be disheartened. We all look forward to your further posts - soon. Chin up, Drillit.

Originally Posted by Hermit

I received a very offensive email this morning from a fellow member, telling me that my opinions and suggestions on woodturning are not welcome by anyone here and that I should pull my head in, since I don't know what I'm talking about.
In the light of this I've decided to take a break. Not happy, but if that's how it is, that's fine. I have broad shoulders. Have fun all.

I think the person who sent the PM to Hermit should fess' up to it; if not, it just proves what a spineless, gutless little t**d they are, and it's obvious that being an a**hat is the only compensation they get in life for having a microp***s.

They are the s**tstains on the underwear of the universe.

I think it was an email to his personal account, I had a guess at two people who I thought it could of been but he neither confirmed or denied.

In a more recent email from him there was glimmer of hope that he may reassess the situation in a few months, we can only hope


Dave the turning cowboy

turning wood into art

it is a pity that you are too much of a gentlemen in not naming him.....for me your contributions are very easy to understand and helpful...like others I would like to see you continue: for those of us who try your suggestions might add a 'credit' such as "an idea developed from a 'contribution by Hermit'

I can see the merit of keeping the identity of the culprit a secret yet I really think that public revelation would clear the air. Would the knowledge that any bad act here will result in public shaming not serve as a disincentive to further acts of this kind?

I've been reading and following this thread .
Like a lot of people have here ,
And I'm quite alarmed at the responses
.Now unfortunately I don't have the gift of pen keyboard that a lot of people have here ,
And Hermit would be included in that group .
I quite enjoyed following along behind him on the path he was following .
I enjoyed reading his posts and hope there will be many to come .
As I enjoy reading quite a lot of posts here .
But I must admit this one s scarring the s... Out of me .
We have Hermit who as received an email from another forum member that as been quite abusive in his/her words .
And from my reading of posts over the last few years from Hermit.
I personally have no reason to dispute that .
He seems to be honest and up front in his writings .
But here is what is scaring me everyone wants to shoot and hang the perpetrator from the nearest tree like it was 1700,s something like a good old fashioned witch hunt.
It's 2015 people .
Quite a few of you have said that no person in there right mind would do such a thing .
And I whole Hartley agree.
A person of sound mind would properly not right an abusive email .
Could the perpetrator not be of sound mind ??

Unfortunately or fortunately depends which way you see this ,this is and open forum for all member of the public .
Which means everyone sane/insane and my ex mother in law included can be members.
I do not condone the behaviour Hermit was subjected to ,it would not be nice and is not nice having been subjected to similar behaviour my self in the past .
For me I was lucky in knowing the perpetrator was mentally ill.
But I still feel for Hermit .
But here we have only heard one side .
Could the perpetrator be having a spell .
Who knows I don't as I write this because I don't and we don't as I write this know who it was .
I'm again not saying it's right what Hermit, as been exposed to but unfortunately it can happen and does happen .
I apologise for my lack of grammar and the gift of writing so many of you have.
My point is let's not go hanging anyone to we have all the information please .

Hermit do what you and only you think is best I personal miss your posts .

And you may pm if you which .

Originally Posted by Simplicity

But here is what is scaring me everyone wants to shoot and hang the perpetrator from the nearest tree like it was 1700,s something like a good old fashioned witch hunt.
It's 2015 people .

I don't want to debate the issue as I want to encourage Steve to return and not feel that he is hounded out by a forumite, whether that one is deranged or mentally deficient or just an idiot.

But because it's indeed 2015 we should not accept this and not only name and shame the forumite but actually put the contents up in open forum for all to judge. The deplorable cyber bullying can only work in the dark.

As Beyond Blue says cyber bullying is a major cause of depression and thus, because it's 2015, should be opposed when it happens.

Peter.

Peter I agree we should not accept it but let's get all the points first
Then make a decision
And I'm not trying to provoke an argument here either
And yes I want to see Steve return

Matt

Simplicity


I do ponder the state of mind that led to this person abusing Hermit. That is one thing that has prevented me from being over derogative of this person and I feel you state some fair points. Any of us can have a bad day and snap. What that snap means in physical action, behaviour and words varies from person to person but still is generally unacceptable.

Like you I do not condone this persons words and actions but realise there is another side of the story and this person likely needs help in some way shape or form. I have a 95% conviction I know who it is though Steve will not tell me but I would sure hate to name the person and be wrong.


Dave the turning cowboy

turning wood into art

You are right Dave ,how we deal with a bad day is personal.
Me it involves a walk away, using hand tools only not power ones.
But it does not involve others.
But unfortunately for some it involves others.
And people get hurt .in this case it was Hermit
Matt

Originally Posted by DaveTTC

Simplicity


I do ponder the state of mind that led to this person abusing Hermit. That is one thing that has prevented me from being over derogative of this person and I feel you state some fair points. Any of us can have a bad day and snap. What that snap means in physical action, behaviour and words varies from person to person but still is generally unacceptable.

Like you I do not condone this persons words and actions but realise there is another side of the story and this person likely needs help in some way shape or form. I have a 95% conviction I know who it is though Steve will not tell me but I would sure hate to name the person and be wrong.


Dave the turning cowboy

turning wood into art

Having received a few nasty emails about my views on reducing risk & improving safety in wood turning I feel for Hermit as I know how he feels. I have deleted several without giving them the courtesy of a response. Not cowardly on my part but the do not deserve the dignity of a response. Almost all did not follow up with a second email.

Sometimes things are said or typed with a head of steam, a few beers or other medical or social matters may influence the clear thinking of the sender. No excuse, but there may be a little more to the story.

Speculating on the content of an email and the identity of the possible "offender" is risky. Publicly naming someone without sufficient proof can certainly be very harmful if an innocent party is wrongly named.

I do not condone abusive emails or PM's but I feel it is far better that such matters are dealt with rationally in private rather than openly on the forum. If the identity of the "offender" is known and the issue is directly forum related then perhaps the best way to resolve the matter is to pass it onto the moderators & administrator of the forum for their action.

Lynch mobs are not the way to go & tend to bring out the worst in people. Often they do not produce a sound resolution to the matter. Remember avatars do not guarantee that you are anonomous on the forum, internet or via emails.

Don't worry about me naming anyone. The only person I have mentioned any name to is Steve

Even if he confirmed I would not air it here, it's not the place and nothing to be gained. I expect the individual has seen this thread and I hope they are having second thoughts about whatever they said. None of us know the history behind and leading up to the email but I am struggling to even imagine anything plausible on steve's part to warrant such.

I do believe the matter is forum related but it is upto Steve if he wants to let the mods know.


Dave the turning cowboy

turning wood into art