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  1. 24th November 2008, 10:31 AM #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilS View Post
    Hi Craig, et al

    It might be useful for anyone who came in late on this thread to know how we got to this point. I feel I should explain this a little as the thread started under my name.

    Sometime back forum member Cliff Rogers began the thread Ci1 Easy Rougher Review by Cliff. In all good faith Cliff undertook to review the tool and to let us know how it went. As the review proceeded many of us became intrigued but at the same time our A$ began to dive. What had been perhaps an option for some of us 'down under' suddenly moved beyond our reach and naturally some of us began to think of how we could solve this problem, as we tend to do here, I being one of them.

    Cliff felt uncomfortable with this drift in his 'review' thread and rightly asked for this separate thread to be created. So, if you would like to follow the original review go to the above thread. From my recollections, the review(s) from a number of 'senior' members of this forum were positive, other than the A$ exchange rate issue for us Australians.

    Other relevant threads on the Ci1 and Ci2 here:

    Ci1 Easy Rougher - started by Craig Jackson himself from Easy Wood Tools
    A Little Ci1 Drama in the Dungeon - started by Stu in Tokyo
    Ci2 Mini Review - started by Stu in Tokyo

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    You missed one. https://www.woodworkforums.com/f8/ci-rougher-road-test-spindles-80629
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  3. 24th November 2008, 11:09 AM #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by View Post
    You missed one. https://www.woodworkforums.com/f8/ci-rougher-road-test-spindles-80629
    How fickle is fame, eh ? Cheer up, I did not forget, your review was the one I mentioned...
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    Just correcting an over sight.
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  5. 24th November 2008, 12:25 PM #109
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    Just to stick my bib in again where it may NOT be welcome...

    There are a few earlier threads as well.

    https://www.woodworkforums.com/f8/tool-74229

    https://www.woodworkforums.com/f8/tct-tip-tools-etc-74490

    https://www.woodworkforums.com/f8/tassie-oak-burl-platter-75119
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  6. 24th November 2008, 12:34 PM #110
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    See Craig? Remember the old marketing slogan: all publicity is good publicity...
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    FWIW if our dollar hadn't gown down the toilet I would have bought one of your tools by now Craig, rather than messing around with what will prob. be an inferior imitation.
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  8. 24th November 2008, 01:06 PM #112
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    Quote Originally Posted by View Post
    You missed one. https://www.woodworkforums.com/f8/ci-rougher-road-test-spindles-80629
    Mea culpa, , and a thread started by our Senior Administrator, no less. Hmmm... apparently not excommunicated yet ....

    Slightly in my defence, the Ci! didn't come up with a search on Ci1 and Ci2... or is the Ci! one of those bodgie look alikes...

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  9. 24th November 2008, 01:19 PM #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff Rogers View Post
    Just to stick my bib in again where it may NOT be welcome...

    There are a few earlier threads as well.

    https://www.woodworkforums.com/f8/tool-74229

    https://www.woodworkforums.com/f8/tct-tip-tools-etc-74490

    https://www.woodworkforums.com/f8/tassie-oak-burl-platter-75119
    Most welcome additions Cliff, now all added to original post along with 's...

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  10. 24th November 2008, 01:42 PM #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilS View Post
    ...is the Ci! one of those bodgie look alikes... ...
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  11. 24th November 2008, 02:22 PM #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank&Earnest View Post
    See Craig? Remember the old marketing slogan: all publicity is good publicity...
    You are so right on that publicity thing!! I am a control freak and this has all been a good experience to help me grow as a person.

    Guys please forgive me when I get so defensive about our tools. I can only ask that you all bare with me as I am trying to make a living on these tools. Thank you for allowing me to share in the conversations here. Yes I am trying to make a buck but I hope the technical insite on woodturning physics and safety will be an asset to this forum. If not, someone PLEASE tell me and I will mention it no more.

    The most important thing for me in the end is everyone just gather the facts best they can about exactly what our tool is and claims to be. I have seen some comment on the finishing cut abilities of the tool and only remind you that it is a Rougher.

    I had also not realized the exchange rate was truely so crappy till I just did a AU to US convert on one of those calculator thingys online. That sucks, for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rsser View Post
    FWIW if our dollar hadn't gown down the toilet I would have bought one of your tools by now Craig, rather than messing around with what will prob. be an inferior imitation.
    Editing Note:
    Only after I posted this post I realise that Craig was posting also, showing before this one , which was intended to answer rsser's post. If I knew, I could have compose my post slightly different, but in fact is not out of place, after reading what Craig said.


    I agree with you rsser, and I've not only mention that predicament a few times recently, but I have indeed 3 emails sent to Craig's wife (Joanne), just before our dollar went totally down the drain. I wasn't only going to buy 1 but 2 Ci1 and a few inserts of each of the 3 models (various radius) they sell.

    I have no doubt that many attempts of making this tool, will fail, as I believe that probably a few of them will out-perform the original. Is nothing wrong with the original, don't take me wrong but, in the process of experimenting and improvising, sometimes something will come out that will surprise even the inventor/maker.

    Taking this into consideration and the fact that Craig openly admitted that himself was looking for something else (tool) to suite some of his needs, I only can suggest to Craig to keep looking at this thread, he may get lucky...!. He have lots of smart/inventive/experienced "dudes" in here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig Jackson View Post
    I had also not realized the exchange rate was truely so crappy till I just did a AU to US convert on one of those calculator thingys online. That sucks, for now.
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    So ya not selling too many in New Zealand then Craig ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig Jackson View Post

    I had also not realized the exchange rate was truely so crappy till I just did a AU to US convert on one of those calculator thingys online. That sucks, for now.
    Graig - have you thought of manufacturing your tools here in Australia under licence? That way you would sell more here at our prices, as well as sell them cheaper back into Nth America, Europe and Asia, or at least increase your profit margin, or both. You might even get some NZ sales... .

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    btw, Woodcut are now selling solid carbide cup cutters:

    http://www.shop.woodcut-tools.com/pr...od=266&xSec=22
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    Vermec have the same thing in 8mm & 10mm.

    The 8mm are $20, the 10mm are $25.
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