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    Had an email from Jim Carroll this afternoon saying that P&N are closing down their woodturning tool manufacturing. Very sad, as I have been a great fan and luckily I have a supply that will see me to the end of my woodturning days.

    Seeing that Jim is a sponsor he may care to elaborate more to forum members.

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    Shame to hear. Hadn’t had a chance to try any of their tools yet either [emoji52]

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    I'm very sorry to hear this!

    They may not be the 'best' tools available, but IMO they're among the best value for money and my preferred gotos.
    I may be weird, but I'm saving up to become eccentric.

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    Sad for sure. I only have one P&N scraper but I do like it and had in mind that any new turning tools would be P&N. Just something about that matt finish lack of bling look that says that's how a tool should be.
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    Like a lot of things in life, we appreciate them when they're gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skew ChiDAMN!! View Post
    I'm very sorry to hear this!

    They may not be the 'best' tools available, but IMO they're among the best value for money and my preferred gotos.
    They certainly have/had the best spindle roughing gouge, IMO.

    Grab one now before they are all gone!

    The next best is going to be the Thompson 1-1/4" SRG, but that is going to put a hole in your wallet after the exchange rate and postage are applied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilS View Post

    The next best is going to be the Thompson 1-1/4" SRG, but that is going to put a hole in your wallet after the exchange rate and postage are applied.
    Carter & Son Toolworks in US also has a rougher (in M42 steel) with a hefty tang like the P&Ns for a little less than the Thompsons (also available un-handled) but I haven't used their tools so can't vouch for their quality.

    https://carterandsontoolworks.com/co...roughing-gouge

    https://carterandsontoolworks.com/co...roughing-gouge
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    So say I wanted to try and snag some of these before they disappear where would I look? I don’t think I’ve ever seen them in Perth, I’m pretty sure Carbatec and a Timbecon don’t sell them and they’re about my only options for quality tooling locally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bueller View Post
    So say I wanted to try and snag some of these before they disappear where would I look? I don’t think I’ve ever seen them in Perth, I’m pretty sure Carbatec and a Timbecon don’t sell them and they’re about my only options for quality tooling locally.
    Here are a few places that used to sell them, but you would have to check to see what they still have in stock.

    https://www.cwsonline.com.au/shop/category/271287

    Hand Tools Wood Turning Tools P&N Turning Tools

    http://www.tymba.com/pdf/pricelist.pdf

    It may seem a bit absurd, but if there is no stock left here in Australia you may have to look overseas.

    P&N Professional Turning Tools - Lee Valley Tools

    They would have to be called boomerangs!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilS View Post
    Here are a few places that used to sell them, but you would have to check to see what they still have in stock.

    https://www.cwsonline.com.au/shop/category/271287

    Hand Tools Wood Turning Tools P&N Turning Tools

    http://www.tymba.com/pdf/pricelist.pdf

    It may seem a bit absurd, but if there is no stock left here in Australia you may have to look overseas.

    P&N Professional Turning Tools - Lee Valley Tools

    They would have to be called boomerangs!

    Good tip Neil.
    Just bought 2 x 16mm bowl gouges from Lee Valley. No dearer than buying them here.

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    In the absence of any comment from Jim, here is part of his original email:


    "Carroll's Chronicle March 2018
    It is with great sadness that we let everyone know about a great tragedy here in Australia.
    We have lost Holden, Ford and now P&N Woodturning tools. Yes it is true one of our local icons has called it a day due to the ever diminishing market they represented.
    P&N were some of the best tools available here in Australia and also around the world. But with the ever increasing influx of asian tools at cheap prices and quality their market strangle hold has been loosened to the point where they have decided to shut down that part of their operation.
    So what are we left with but a range of English tools which are not bad but not in the same league as our P&N tools and some american tools and the asian imports.
    We have seen the list of tools still available but it is the more uncommon sizes that are still available till they run out, We have limited stock left and running out quickly since the panic set in."

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    Very much saddened by them disappearing. Was tempted to rush out and buy a few chisels but A) of they were already sold and B) the ones I've got are built too well and will last me quite a few years...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilS View Post
    It may seem a bit absurd, but if there is no stock left here in Australia you may have to look overseas.

    P&N Professional Turning Tools - Lee Valley Tools

    They would have to be called boomerangs!
    I’ve not used P&N chisels before (not being in Aus, shipping is a killer), but based on this thread and their reputation in general, I ordered a couple of gouges from Lee Valley. Shipped them to my daughter in the US and I’ll collect them later this year when I go for a visit.

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    Good move.
    Still have to send you my shopping list.
    Phil

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