Needs Pictures: 0
Picture(s) thanks: 0
Results 16 to 30 of 34
Thread: Great New Toy
-
4th December 2013, 12:13 PM #16
Great New Toy
I am keen to try out the set up. Sadly I not long got the trugrind jig
Buying Australian is great.
Nz_carver - thanks for starting the 'hype' as some call it. In glad to know about a new tool, look forward to reviews, will talk to about it and how to try one out at some point
Dave
The Turning Cowboy
-
4th December 2013 12:13 PM # ADSGoogle Adsense Advertisement
- Join Date
- Always
- Location
- Advertising world
- Posts
- Many
-
4th December 2013, 12:13 PM #17
Yep, the hype has worked by creating a lot of interest in this product, but give me a little more credit Jim. I'm buying one not because I was sucked in by the hype but because I need another jig and I need to see and try them first before I invest in stock. I would've found out about this product regardless of any air-time on this forum.
I look forward to seeing how good they are.
-
4th December 2013, 01:39 PM #18
I will look at this as an addition to the craft/hobby that I have chosen.
I will have to add it to my list of things to keep an eye out for. So far I think I have over 20 eyes out.
-
4th December 2013, 05:10 PM #19SENIOR MEMBER
- Join Date
- Oct 2009
- Location
- South Africa
- Posts
- 950
-
4th December 2013, 09:23 PM #20
I'm a strong supporter of buy Australian & Queensland (& even Kiwi) made so it is very good to see a manufacturer developing and manufacturing wood turning tools here & I hope they get plenty of support. Vicmarc & Vermec both make high quality tools that work well and are worth the slight cost premium in my book.
As for being new & revolutionary well all pivoting jigs are variations of the ball ended goniostat adapted for use with a powered grinder. The goniostat goes well back in turning history into at least the 1700's and perhaps earlier and was also in use in lapidary applications.
I'm not particularly in favour of single point pivot and handle end sharpening jigs as they present hazards to the user if they are not used correctly and more particularly when the jig pivot starts to wear and or if the locking devices are not secured correctly. The hazard is created by locking clamps moving; the heel of the pivot moving from the support hole or not being located/seated correctly allowing the tool to move down the wheel surface untill the tool is either jambed against the moving wheel and slammed downwards or thrown sideways. Both actions can be quite violent when the device is used with conventional grinders. Pivoting jigs are a very handy tool for accurately replicating preferred tool grinds but require a degree of skill and concentration to use safely. (Mike Darlow covers jigs quite well in "Woodturning Techniques")
The Vicmarc jig does address these issues quite well as it appears to be very robust with good locking systems and has a very well designed pivot stop compared to similar competitors products.
Now as for a game changer, well it may be a very good pivioting sharpening system, but I think I will be sticking to my Heligrind and Tormek jig systems.
-
4th December 2013, 09:47 PM #21GOLD MEMBER
- Join Date
- Jan 2010
- Location
- Melbourne
- Posts
- 2,636
Nothing like a thread discussing sharpening options to get the argument juices flowing.
What I'd like is 'something' to sharpen my tools 'sharp' which doesn't take a lot of time and conserves steel. This new Vicmarc jig 'seems' like it's okay. A game changer it is not. Not unless it sharpens 'sharp', gets the job done quick and conserves steel.
Brendan, I look forward to your review on Youtube.-Scott
-
5th December 2013, 10:09 AM #22Skwair2rownd
- Join Date
- Nov 2007
- Location
- Dundowran Beach
- Age
- 76
- Posts
- 19,922
Mobyturns makes some very pertinent comments about this jig.
I have always been a little concerned by the flimsy tool holding
Methods used by some jigs. Years ago I bought a Heligrind But have
hardly used it for this ery reason. THe desifn is sound but the
execution of the design is lacking in this one area,
Many of the jigs on the market remind me of the line from that
qonderful bokk"1066 and All That" ---- a good thing but a bad king.
-
7th December 2013, 09:46 AM #23Senior Member
- Join Date
- Feb 2010
- Location
- Eugene, OR USA
- Posts
- 322
Hmmm, another grinding jig set up in an already crowded market. I won't be buying one, but will check out at the next Symposium I go to. Since I haven't seen it in person, I can only guess. I don't really see anything that is an improvement over any of the others out there. The gouge jigs seem to be rather large compared to Oneway and the Ellsworth jigs that I am familiar with. The platform looks to be the same. Well, I do need to see them.
One thing I am curious about. I have Vicmark chucks, and love the dove tail on them. I measured once a long time ago, and I thought the angle was 7 degrees, which is what is recommended for dove tails in joinery. Is it 10 or 7?
robo hippy
-
7th December 2013, 12:39 PM #24
looks good to me
...for me the hype was a put off. Just put the thing on the market and let me make up my own mind.
But looking at the instruction manual from an engineering angle it impresses. OK its bigger than my Trugrind and a bit heavier I dont see that as a negative. The method of locking certainly will hold with a great deal of pressure and that cant be bad. It is definitely an improvement on my Trugrind. The grinding station is the only part that interests me at the moment having the other jig.
As to safety, in all these things there is measure of learning and appreciating the risks involved. As we are familiar with the need to sharpen and sharpen often. I would expect this particular jig, not to add any greater risks than other models, but time will tell.
All in all it looks well made and solid, characteristics of a good jig and typical of the Vicmarc attitude to quality. I see no reason why it wont be a success, this is sight unseen and would love to have a play with it.
Brendan look forward to your comments and any comparisons you care to offer up.Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working. — Pablo Picasso
-
7th December 2013, 01:42 PM #25Jim Carroll
One Good Turn Deserves Another. CWS, Vicmarc, Robert Sorby, Woodcut, Tormek, Woodfast
Are you a registered member? Why not? click here to register. It's free and only takes 37 seconds!
-
7th December 2013, 02:40 PM #26
I've seen the item(s), it is a 'better mouse trap.'
If you already have a trap that catches mice, you may not buy it.
I have a Unijig 5 & a Hiturn that I bought in 1999 & I have adapted both to suit me & my situation so I don't need to buy it.
If somebody was asking my opinion on what to get or I lost all my tools in a fire/cyclone/robbery, then this is what I would recommend to others & buy for myself.Cliff.
If you find a post of mine that is missing a pic that you'd like to see, let me know & I'll see if I can find a copy.
-
8th December 2013, 11:03 PM #27
After chatting to and perusing the pdf manual, I'm definitely up for one of these as soon as they're on sale.
I don't have one at all yet, and if the Vicmarc is both a little cheaper and a little better than the Tru-Grind, I'm in.... Steve
-- Monkey see, monkey do --
-
12th May 2014, 03:09 PM #28Intermediate Member
- Join Date
- Apr 2012
- Location
- Brisbane
- Posts
- 49
Given it's been a few months now, does anyone have anymore thoughts on this jig? I'll be in the market for my first sharpening jig soon so will be tossing up between the Tru Grind and this one, and reading so far it will be most likely the Vicmarc by the sound of things.
-
12th May 2014, 04:02 PM #29... Steve
-- Monkey see, monkey do --
-
12th May 2014, 04:13 PM #30Intermediate Member
- Join Date
- Apr 2012
- Location
- Brisbane
- Posts
- 49
Similar Threads
-
My Great Great Great Grandfathers tool box
By Phil Spencer in forum WOODWORK - GENERALReplies: 15Last Post: 29th May 2012, 02:25 PM -
My Great, Great, Great Grandfathers Plane
By Phil Spencer in forum WOODWORK - GENERALReplies: 14Last Post: 18th January 2012, 05:03 PM -
Huon Pine Book Case made by my Great, Great, Great Grandfather
By Phil Spencer in forum WOODWORK PICSReplies: 19Last Post: 22nd November 2011, 09:31 AM -
Another pice by my Great, Great, Great Grandfather
By Phil Spencer in forum WOODWORK - GENERALReplies: 7Last Post: 1st October 2011, 05:29 PM -
My Great, Great, Great Grandfathers hall Chair
By Phil Spencer in forum WOODWORK PICSReplies: 12Last Post: 11th September 2011, 11:26 AM