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    Default A visitor up to the NE of Victoria

    I had Calm up twice over the last few days. A very welcome visit.

    We got a little bit done. A new no.3 grind on the Kryo (I still don't like it), a nice shallow Blackwood bowl with a little dip in the centre, plus the redgum platter below.

    For the life of me, I can't get rid of the swirl marks so I won't remove the foot until I figure it out. (I'm re-reading the bible again, A Polishers Handbook). EEE then Shellawax. Sanded to 400 grit.) I might just have to start again, but the wood is moving.

    I really need to re-think I my lathe work area. Sure, some doors on the cupboards will help, but the chips are flying all over the place. (I assume that means I'm turning better?).

    Advice most appreciated. The redgum is tiger fiddleback and I don't want to ruin it before I turn the foot off.

    And , I did the bead all by myself this time. Practice, practice....

    Jeff


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    Progressive sanding should remove marks, provided you progress from one grade to the next after the marks from the previous paper have been removed. I am sure you have been told that before. Try washing the surface with a really wet rag then go through the fine papers again. The water will raise the grain, that may help.
    Love that tiger grain.

    Jim
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    I forgot to show the blackwood piece - and thank David AKA Calm for the tuition, company and of course the blackwood!

    Here it is:

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    Jeff

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    G`day you might not be completly removing the excess shellawax ie putting to much on. Try buffing again or put EEE on again to cut back the shellawax and try again.Goodluck.Mick

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    I like the look of ya shed
    I can see one problem - you're gunna run out of stock storage space

    oh and bytheway, nice lookin platters
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    very nice jeff an easy way of doors for the cupboards is just to use stretchy curtain wire and make some curtains works for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by mick61 View Post
    G`day you might not be completly removing the excess shellawax ie putting to much on. Try buffing again or put EEE on again to cut back the shellawax and try again.Goodluck.Mick

    Mick, I'll do as you suggest tomorrow. I'm sure I sanded well enough, forward and reverse on the lathe. It has been said before that I put too much wax on so that might be the problem.

    Nick, dunno what to say. That portion of the shed is just one part of it. I've got 25m by 9m and it's brimming full of cupboards, timber and machinery. NOT BRAGGING. I just wish I'd thought the whole storage / work areas etc thru before I got out of hand and completely disorganised.

    The lathe section of the shed - which also includes my workbench etc and all of my hand / power tools - is now being covered in fine dust. I had no idea when I moved the lathe into the heated section of the shed.

    I have one of those dust hoods, plus the Jet filter in the roof, but the dust still goes everywhere.... Calm has suggested I put curtains up. Maybe a good idea.

    Jeff

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    Well done Grasshopper. The dust

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    Well done Grasshopper. The dust
    Grasshopper I am , but just watch your back you cheeky sod. There are quite a few Forumite apprentices under your and other watchful eyes that are learning to turn.

    And one day, maybe one day, one or all of us may just catch up to you.... Well, maybe not with the skew but you've had a long head start. Just make sure you hand that knowledge on to me and others so we can do the same for others. That's a nice thought isn't it. Passing something valuable on.

    I've got a long way to go. Skew is yet to give me lessons with the Oland tools, the back-hollowing technique for lidded boxes is still beyond me. I'll get there.

    Just don't ask me to turn a platter to the same proportions tomorrow. I had one major catch with the Kryo (using apparently the Cliff approved grind and method, drawing back with a kind of peel scrape), so for now, I'll stick with the old methods.

    I hope to see some of you down at Tooradin next month for sharpening lessons.

    Jeff

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    Now I can see why you complained about putting shavings everywhere. Heck I do that at my joint without even trying and they still get in the drawers as well. You'll never stop it
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    DJ and Co,

    When and his good spouse were up over the New Year, We (as in and I) came up with a plan. Enclose the turning section of the shed. Plate glass windows, so I could see out etc.... Control the dust etc.

    The ladies put that idea into the No Zone. And they were quite definite on it. (It may be my shed, sometimes anyway). And I want AC for the summer too like in Ern's shed.

    So I need to come up with a compromise that works.

    I think if I get the cyclone up and running - with ducting filtering the air back into the shed - it might be OK.

    I probably need to look at a few more sheds / turning stations. The fine dusting is not pleasant in the nostrils.

    Jeff

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    It sounds like you need the poor man's walls... shower curtains!

    Seriously! Hang a rail from the ceiling behind the lathe and another behind where you stand, then you can spray shavings as you please and move the curtains to deflect the brunt of it onto the floor.

    And ya can move 'em outta the way (or pull 'em down, if you're feeling energetic) when you've done turning for the day...
    I may be weird, but I'm saving up to become eccentric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jefferson View Post
    ............For the life of me, I can't get rid of the swirl marks so I won't remove the foot until I figure it out. (I'm re-reading the bible again, A Polishers Handbook). EEE then Shellawax. Sanded to 400 grit.) I might just have to start again, but the wood is moving.
    ..............
    When you work out how to stop the swirl marks in Shellawax on something that big you can let me in on the secret I don't even attempt Shellawax past about 5" diameter 'cos I just got too frustrated trying to get it to work. These days I take the long way round and use oil or wipe-on poly then buff it to finish off. Takes a lot longer but it's easier on the stress levels
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    Quote Originally Posted by jefferson View Post
    For the life of me, I can't get rid of the swirl marks so I won't remove the foot until I figure it out. (I'm re-reading the bible again, A Polishers Handbook). EEE then Shellawax. Sanded to 400 grit.) I might just have to start again, but the wood is moving.
    Quote Originally Posted by TTIT View Post
    When you work out how to stop the swirl marks in Shellawax on something that big you can let me in on the secret I don't even attempt Shellawax past about 5" diameter 'cos I just got too frustrated trying to get it to work. These days I take the long way round and use oil or wipe-on ploy then buff it to finish off. Takes a lot longer but it's easier on the stress levels
    Are you guys using Shellawax or Shellawax Cream on these larger objects or platters?

    Reason I ask is that Shellawax is only suitable for smaller stuff or spindle work whilst the cream is for the bigger stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ's Timber View Post
    Are you guys using Shellawax or Shellawax Cream on these larger objects or platters?

    Reason I ask is that Shellawax is only suitable for smaller stuff or spindle work whilst the cream is for the bigger stuff.
    Tried the cream and didn't do much better DJ Dunno where I'm going wrong. If I get down there this xmas we might have to have a 'Finishingfest' eh!
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