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    After a some decent procrastination I've made the leap and bought a Vicmarc VL175 bench mount lathe. I skimped on the stand because I'm on a budget. As you've guessed, I'm going to have to make myself a bench and have decided it'll be made from wood as I've got next to no metalwork experience.

    I'm wondering if those who have the bench mount lathe can post some images of their VL175 lathe and bench. Could you also share some things which work for you in the design of the bench. Thanks in advance

    And I have to give a big shout out to Brian and Chris from Pop's Shed who provided some valuable advice on purchasing the lathe. They also gave me a great deal on the lathe and accessories, very competitive!
    -Scott

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    If you are going to do bowls or spindles that require removing a lot of timber, consider a stand rather than a bench. With a bench you get a pile on top that has to be raked onto the floor, along with anything under the chips. If you do out of balance stuff, anything you leave on the bench gets vibrated onto the floor.

    I like this, without casters and a shelf at the bottom for weight:

    http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4035/...0930a8c523.jpg

    See: https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...mg.1Tg-u6_ANJM

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...mg.taVnfZGPoqA

    If you are going to do large out of balance blanks, have a stout shelf on the bottom where you can put concrete blocks, buckets of gravel, dead car batteries, etc to keep things stable. You may also provide for bolting to a concrete floor.

    If you are going to do pens and goblets, etc., anything you like will work.

    See below for chips from a shallow bowl.
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    So much timber, so little time.

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    If you are going to do bowls or spindles that require removing a lot of timber, consider a stand rather than a bench. With a bench you get a pile on top that has to be raked onto the floor, along with anything under the chips. If you do out of balance stuff, anything you leave on the bench gets vibrated onto the floor.

    But at the end of the day you have bought a fairly serious lathe so go with a stand. Because you will in time get up to its max and a bench wont cut it.

    I always build stands for my lathes, benchs, storage systems etc that get added to a lathe base always take a way from the stand effect and have an effect on stability.
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    The Vicmarc stand comes with the right bolt holes for the outrigger - which you will need if you are to make full use of the swivel head. I'm suprised that one didn't come up with your conversation at Pop's Shed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hughie View Post
    I always build stands for my lathes, benchs, storage systems etc that get added to a lathe base always take a way from the stand effect and have an effect on stability.
    Just trying to get a grip on your thinking here Hughie, however I would think a wood bench (solid one at that) which is dyna bolted to the ground would be more stable than a stand? As space is at a premium, I was going to make a bench with drawers. For the legs I was thinking 100mm square with 100 x 50mm cross beams. If you think a stand would be better then I'll have to change my thinking.

    Thanks for your advice Hughie and Paul39, I value your experience.
    -Scott

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    Quote Originally Posted by jefferson View Post
    The Vicmarc stand comes with the right bolt holes for the outrigger - which you will need if you are to make full use of the swivel head. I'm suprised that one didn't come up with your conversation at Pop's Shed.
    It did Jefferson. I'm going to buy the stand and outrigger further down the track when I can afford them.
    -Scott

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    Scott use the shape of the original stand as your shape.

    You need to be at least 6oomm wide at the base then shaped up to the same width as the lathe at the top.

    This stops the rocking motion and adds more stability,that can come with out of round peices.

    You also want a 5 degree slant on the front.

    Dont forget ply bracing to stop the timber from racking.

    By the by with the money you will need to spend on building a stand you wont be far of half the original cost of buying the lathe complete with the original stand.

    Would be better to wait a while and purchase the complete unit and not waste money now and extra freight later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Carroll View Post
    Would be better to wait a while and purchase the complete unit and not waste money now and extra freight later.
    Or, would it be better to buy a VL200 long bed (because I think I'm being swayed by your opinion)?
    -Scott

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott View Post
    Or, would it be better to buy a VL200 long bed (because I think I'm being swayed by your opinion)?
    You could do that , there is a 6 week wait as castings are in short supply.

    But this would give you the extra time to save more pennies and get all the right gear the first time.
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    Thanks for your advice Jim, might go down this road.
    -Scott

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    Scott, I wouldn't give the idea of a VL 175 away and replace it with a VL200. The 175 can do much much more if you use the swivel head. I use mine more than my LB VL300 if that is any recommendation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jefferson View Post
    Scott, I wouldn't give the idea of a VL 175 away and replace it with a VL200. The 175 can do much much more if you use the swivel head. I use mine more than my LB VL300 if that is any recommendation.
    Thanks Jefferson, I appreciate your feedback, it's this sort of advice I'm exactly after. Yes, the swivel head is definitely an attraction.
    -Scott

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    Okay, after much grovelling to the good lady (and trust me, I was on my knees), I'll change my order tomorrow to a VL175 stand mount.

    Thank you all for your advice and input.

    (edit, what a good way to make my 2000th post!).
    -Scott

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    Whooee, nice set up!! You can build a set of two chests with drawers or compartments to set on the shelf.

    If you don't like them there, you can build a base and set them one on the other behind you when facing the lathe.

    Put the grinder on top.
    So much timber, so little time.

    Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul39 View Post
    Whooee, nice set up!! You can build a set of two chests with drawers or compartments to set on the shelf.
    Ooooh, good idea, thank you
    -Scott

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