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Thread: WIP: deep hollowing
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17th June 2008, 11:53 PM #136
Ern, I'm with Joe and on this one. In my experience, hollow forms left in a chuck for days, and sometimes even overnight, tend to warp or move. I have a four-inch alloy cone live centre that I use in these situations to re-align the opening to the centre. As said, re-turn the area where the steady runs. My roller blade wheel steady always sounds noisy, but does not cause any vibration if everything is running true. Can your steady be moved closer to the apex of the curve? This may also help.
Just my two cents worth, press on regardless.
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18th June 2008, 09:16 AM #137Hewer of wood
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Thanks for the post Fredo.
The opening is weak with some voids and knots just below it so I won't risk retruing between centres. And the steady isn't big enough to go much further up than half way (which may not be a bad thing - have to see - as the run-out at the shoulder is 50 thou.).
Anyway, time to hog out and take my chances. (If it looks like a millstone and weighs like a millstone, it is a fr*ggin millstone!).Cheers, Ern
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8th July 2008, 02:37 PM #138Hewer of wood
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Some minor P that may be of interest in this WIP.
Some of the epoxy fill has fallen out with the initial hollowing and sanding.
The fill was 5 minute epoxy at about 1:1 ground coffee.
May have held better with 24 hour epoxy, or more glue to coffee, or perhaps Turkish ground coffee being finer. Finer grind might have fooled F&E's micrometer ;-}
Anyway, with the northpaw in a splint not much else is happening, 'cept some epoxy fill inside the form and CA strengthening of branchwood bark. The form has also gone a little more out of true.
Added: while the initial hollowing was done with a 5/8" shaft, an earlier test showed it was prone to bending without much of an overhang. So I knocked up a 3/4 shaft to take the Proforme head - but only a straight one as bending one is beyond me.
I also felt that the Proforme was cutting pretty agressively - even with a small gap there's a longish radius.
So waiting in the wings is this lot of hollowers - using traditional HSS tips; in this case, 3/16". It's a square cutter in the straight shaft, but those in the bent ones have spigots for inserting into the shafts. All shafts are 3/4" and the straight one is 20" long. All to go into the VM hollowing support.
What they're sitting on is the worst bit of interlocked-grained and punky wood I've ever seen.Cheers, Ern
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8th July 2008, 04:18 PM #139Cheers,
Andy
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8th July 2008, 04:54 PM #140Hewer of wood
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Thanks Andy. Appreciated.
No, not the Stubby; an old injury that never came right (more on my blog).
Anyway, the snow is falling on the hills so I'll try it out with a XC ski pole. The only glove that'll fit is an old greasy-wool mitten. Sometimes the old ways are the only waysCheers, Ern
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8th July 2008, 08:20 PM #141
Ern, what are the new hollowers & where'd you get them from..... not that I need any more.
Cliff.
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8th July 2008, 09:19 PM #142Hewer of wood
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They're John Jordan's Cliff. Ordered direct from the USoivay.
I was looking at making something with a lighter cutting action than the Proforme and with a thicker shaft.
Anything I could make myself would be crude so in for a penny ...Cheers, Ern
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8th July 2008, 09:34 PM #143
They are very much like to homemade ones that I sold to Allan & then borrowed back to do that under cut lip on that big bowl last year.
Well... in theory that is... they look tough, the ones I made were just recycled steel.Cliff.
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9th July 2008, 06:04 AM #144Hewer of wood
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Yes, they do, now that you mention it.
Cheers, Ern
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