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    Default pine, willow and soap conditioning

    A couple of bowls that have responded well to the soap treatment. Both cut green last summer and spent about 4-6 weeks in the soap then air dried for about 4 weeks. No sign to date of any movement or cracking etc, both finished with shellawax.

    Interesting enough the willow [ r/h bowl ] turned well and cut cleanly with a hint of fibre tear. It was cut from a mature tree, probably 20+ years old, maybe this helped :confused: .

    Size of both bowls is around 10-12cm width x 7cm-10cm high or 4-5"x2.75-4" for our US friends

    The real plus is the ease of slicing through soft timber after tackling various dried hard woods

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    How deep do you reckon the soaking went Hughie?
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    Nice bowls, especially like the left hand bowl, the shape of it. Care to tell us how you did the soap treatment? if you have allready told us how, a link please? Intersting enough though, the background is always just as interesting as what the object is

    Nice going,
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    the one on the left gets my money.. really nice shape, it invites you to pick it up and roll it round in your hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auzzie turner
    Nice bowls, especially like the left hand bowl, the shape of it. Care to tell us how you did the soap treatment? if you have allready told us how, a link please? Intersting enough though, the background is always just as interesting as what the object is
    Nice going,
    Regards........Joash
    Yeh Hughie, nice bowls, and I wouldnt mind knowing your soap recipe also? (sunlight soap? dishwashing liquid?, what ratio?)
    Whats in the jar behind the bowl? Not some weird home brew I hope, cause youll be drinking it on your own, if it is!

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    And put the lid back on yer EEE! Stone the crows, some blokes... [shakes head]


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    Post soap

    Thanks for the encouragement.

    Soap: I use the cheapest liquid dish washing liquid I could find @ $1 a litre, mix it with water one to one. Oh! gets some sented oil strong stuff, cos the brew will really stink after a few bowls :eek: it will bring the blowies from miles around other wise.
    And make sure its with out any colour other wise.........

    Depth: thats a hard one. But the bowls in question were cut and finished all in less that 3 months.It could have been less but I was busy, so the process was interrupted a few times. Theres no distortion and no cracking, the rough out was a lot less than the recommended 10% probably closer to 5%.

    Being soft wood I would say penetration was all the way through, given I left about 12-15 mm wall thickness in the rough out stage.
    Soft timber works best for me, hardwoods well.... it may the same time as air drying

    Lid off: fair comment ........hangs his head and stands in the corner.

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    Both are fine looking bowls, and I too favor the left one.

    -- Wood Listener--

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    Hughie, good lookin' bowls. I like 'em both. Seems from the pic that the one on the left is thinner... but they're both really nice.
    You left them in the soap a lot longer than I do, so I may give that a shot. I've been leaving mine in for 7 days... gotta get more soap. Mine stinks, that's for sure... I put a gallon of denatured alcohol in my tank every so often, to replace that pulled out by the wood. I guess that's why the flies don't come around.
    Now for the yank thing: What's EEE?
    Haven't been to check on the postage yet... but will, one day.
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    EEE is a polishing paste that does a very fine abrasive job. It works a treat, but I tend to stay away from it if I am using wood with holes of some kind as it can fill them with a greyish muck unfortunately... HOWEVER, I certainly use it on every other piece of turning I do!

    The good news is that there is also a distributor in the States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CameronPotter
    EEE is a polishing paste ...I tend to stay away from it if I am using wood with holes of some kind as it can fill them with a greyish muck unfortunately......
    You can buff it out manually with the lath stopped using a soft bristle brush.
    A soft tooth brush, paint brush or shoe polish brush works.
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    Thanks for the info, Cam and Cliff, I'll check out the EEE.
    I use Woll Wax Paste, here. It's made by Masters Magic, now; though it was invented in Amarillo, Texas.
    You can wet sand with Woll Wax, or apply it with just a few drops of water, and then buff it out to a beautiful satin sheen. And then you can spray lacquer on it without cleaning off the wax, if you decide you need another coat. Something about it... good stuff, anyway.
    Al
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    Default Eee

    Al, PSI (http://www.pennstateind.com) sells the Ubeaut brand of polishes/waxes. Just type EEE in the site search. I bought a small can of EEE, and it does do a fine job. Not sure, but the abrasive in it looks and feels like rottenstone. It works like a very fine rubbing compound.

    -- Wood Listener--

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gil Jones
    Al, PSI (http://www.pennstateind.com) sells the Ubeaut brand of polishes/waxes. Just type EEE in the site search. I bought a small can of EEE, and it does do a fine job. Not sure, but the abrasive in it looks and feels like rottenstone. It works like a very fine rubbing compound.
    rottenstone is also known as tripoli powder, here is the link to it.

    btw, nice bowls, i like the right one better...
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