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8th September 2010, 04:03 AM #1GOLD MEMBER
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Woodfast 410
I briefly looked at a Woodfast 410 this morning. 20 inch swing, short bed, on sheet metal cabinet.
It had 4 step pulleys with the multi V belt, a small black variable speed dial, and ran on 230 volts.
I was impressed with the solid look of it.
I understand it is no longer made by the original mfg. and that Rikon bought the rights.
I am in LUST, any information is helpful, good, bad, or indifferent. Comments from owners / users especially welcome.
I'm going back tomorrow in work clothes to crawl around and dig around in its guts.
Anything I should look for?
Thanks.Last edited by Paul39; 8th September 2010 at 07:02 AM. Reason: correct its
So much timber, so little time.
Paul
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8th September 2010, 05:15 AM #2
Paul, do you mean . . .
Model M910 Wood Lathe $3460.00
Manual Speed Change in 3 Phase Available POA
Prices are subjected to change due to exchange rate
The M910 has been designed completely with the future owner in mind. Its overall construction is solid and vibration-free. The 2 HP motor, coupled with an established European brand electronic variable speed drive power pack provides maximum grunt when it is needed and smooth, fast speeds for delicate spindle-turning work. All machine operating controls are in simple and easy reach for no-fuss, enjoyable woodturning.
Pure woodturning heaven!
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- Heavy Duty vibration absorbing cast iron construction
- Finely ground bed for reduced friction
- 4 large QUATRO design Headstock Bearings
- Heavy Duty steel cabinet stand
- Portable switch controls for operator comfort
- Spindle Lock for easy removal of chucks
- 24 division Index Pin
- Swing over Bed 520mm
- Distance between centres 975mm
- Spindle tapers No 2
- Tailstock Spindle travel 100mm
- Electronic variable speed 10-3600 rpm
- Spindle Thread 30mm x 3.5 p
- Powerful fan cooled Motor 2 hp x 240 volt
- Micro switch to Headstock Lid & Cabinet Door
Options:
Rear Turning Attachment Three Point Steady
- 0130121 Rear Turning Attachment
(Max. diameter of swing 760mm) $190.00
- 0130162 Three Point Steady $273.90
* All prices inclusive of GST
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Standard Equipment
- 82 mm Face Plate
- 25 mm Spur Drive Centre
- Revolving Cup Centre
- 150 mm Straight Toolrest
- 300 mm Straight Toolrest
- Rear Handwheel Brake
- Face Plate Spanner
- Centre Knock Out Bar
* Schools Models:
Rear Spindle Guard in Lieu of Rear Handwheel Brake
Portable switched locked down $POA
Padlockable isolator fitted $POA
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8th September 2010, 07:01 AM #3GOLD MEMBER
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8th September 2010, 09:15 AM #4
Paul they are a strong little lathe, and if you had the choice between a new one and one like you have seen then you would buy the 410.
Just get the motor changed over to variable speed setup and you will have a great lathe.
You will be able to tell how old it is by the markings on the ways of the bed at the tail stock end.Jim Carroll
One Good Turn Deserves Another. CWS, Vicmarc, Robert Sorby, Woodcut, Tormek, Woodfast
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8th September 2010, 10:32 AM #5
I have three Woodfast lathes and wouldn't part with them. Fit a variable speed setup and you can't go wrong.
JimSometimes in the daily challenges that life gives us, we miss what is really important...
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8th September 2010, 10:50 AM #6Paul they are a strong little lathe, and if you had the choice between a new one and one like you have seen then you would buy the 410.
I have thought about packing the tailstock and headstock to increase swing etc by about 50mm. But lack a source of packing at a reasonable priceInspiration exists, but it has to find you working. — Pablo Picasso
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8th September 2010, 07:28 PM #7Member
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8th September 2010, 09:27 PM #8Senior Member
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Good lathe!
I nearly bought one 2 years ago for $2500 on special from Carbatec.
A bargain, but then someone spent the cash other places....
GC
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9th September 2010, 05:31 AM #10GOLD MEMBER
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Woodfast 410 Second Look
I went back today and found it is a 1995, with Leeson 1.5 PM DC motor, sold by Craft Supplies.
I ran it at the fastest speed for about 5 minutes. The big bearing toward the spindle nose was cool as a cucumber, and the one next to the hand wheel got just a bit warm.
I put a knock out bar on the bearing housings and stuck it in my ear, they sounded smooth and even. No crunching and grinding.
The variable speed control worked smoothly. All bare metal is slightly rusty and the lathe had not been used recently. All the levers & tailstock screw were movable, and faceplate came off the spindle nose, The hand wheel was stuck but I did not want to use force on something not my own. I'm not likely to use it for outboard turning with 20 inch swing over the bed.
The metal cabinet is indeed noisy, I can glue rubber membrane roofing to the inside to change the resonant frequency. My Hegner 175 with square tubing bed rings like a bell, so a bit of noise is nothing new.
The spur drive tip and the live center point lined up vertically, but the tailstock center was about 1 - 3 mm to the rear. This may get better after cleaning, or a bit of filing on the front of the tailstock to bed fit will bring it forward.
What would you folks think this is worth in $AU?
I left an offer and will hear by this evening. Of course these things come available when one does not have $ in the crazy money fund. I blew my fund last fall at an auction where I bought a 60 year old band saw and a 50 year old drill press for about 1/2 the price of modern Chinese.
Manufacturers were not afraid to put a bit of cast iron in the mold back then.
Thanks for all the advice, I'll let you know how it turns out.So much timber, so little time.
Paul
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9th September 2010, 10:40 AM #11I'm in the same boat, Hughie. What would you use for packing? Would mild steel under the tailstock cause problems with the bed? What about tool rest height?
Yeah would have to extent tool post height. I dont think the MS would cause any major problems. I tend lube my bed from time to time with dry graphite... a carpenters pencil, so I dont see any majors there. Its the 50mm MS plate is more the problem.
sorry Paul for the hijackInspiration exists, but it has to find you working. — Pablo Picasso
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9th September 2010, 11:46 AM #12
Sold my 20 yr old Woodfast (alignment was spot on) with 1HP motor + quality VS upgrade + outboard turning rig for A$1200.
.....Stay sharp and stay safe!
Neil
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10th September 2010, 05:14 AM #13GOLD MEMBER
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I Bought It
The Woodfast 410 was consigned at a hardware store for $899, low because of cosmetic appearance. 30 day warranty. After research and council from this forum, running it, and carefully checking, I offered $800, as is, where is. Owner countered $850 as is.
After yet another night of flopping around, and yes and no in my mind, I took the plastic and bought it this morning, $915.88 with tax, and three miles from the house. No agony with mistreatment by the shipping company.
I have all the small bits, tailstock, banjo, etc. home, and will disassemble and pick up the the rest tomorrow. The lathe needs to be taken to the back of my somewhat rough mulched lot to the basement, so it is easier in pieces. I will also clean, remove rust, and paint as I reassemble.
Photos to follow.
Thanks to all of you for the information, support, and advice.So much timber, so little time.
Paul
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10th September 2010, 12:30 PM #14GOLD MEMBER
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Woodfast Is Home
I brought the small parts home this morning, and by afternoon decided I could not wait until tomorrow to get the rest.
The live center is stuck in the tailstock, and the hand wheel is stuck on the spindle. Both liberally soaked with penetrating oil. Tomorrow we try tap tapping, and then heat, more oil, more tapping.
Under the rust on the bed are what appear to be the original machining marks. The bed has a few nicks and a few craters with raised edges which filed flat. I am most impressed with the webbed cast iron bed. It is all I can do to lift the bed and headstock.
The variable speed 1.5 HP Leeson DC motor looks like an addition, as the control box is mounted on a piece of unpainted new looking wood.
There is a nice collection of extra bits, including a home made curved bowl rest, and a very sturdy live center.
The stand, called by some a "sheet metal" stand is I think 3/16 steel welded into a single rigid piece. It is all I can do to tilt it, put blocks under and slide it. Once I got it to the mulched part of the yard, I rolled it end for end to the side of the house. It awaits tomorrow under a tarp when I will make room in the basement and hopefully turn something BIG.
Does anyone know what the piece with the notched edge is used for?
If any of you want photos of the under, inside, or decals, let me know and I'll take them before I put it together.So much timber, so little time.
Paul
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Does anyone know what the piece with the notched edge is used for?
It looks like a fence off a sander or linisher.
Good haul Paul.
The Leeson is an addition.
The tail stock centre should be self ejecting when you wind the handle right back.
The best way to remove would be to put load on it by pulling it right in and then use a knockout bar through the spindle.
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