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23rd June 2009, 10:47 PM #1New Member
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Which one of these woodturning books would you choose?
Hi, I'm new to turning, but fairly well versed in most other general woodworking practices.
I am currently looking to buy quite a few used woodworking books that are available to me at relatively low prices- this, after a lifetime of never owning any woodworking related books before (I've always just tried to go about my work without them. At most - I'd skim through magazines and books at book stores or libraries, etc.)
I've always wanted many of the books I'd looked through briefly, or seen mentioned on forums, but was always put off by the sheer numbers there are, and the amount of information there is available out there (just like with most every other subject, really.) I've always kind of hoped to find that one "perfect" book that would cover a topic(s) I felt I'd really "need" a book for in the first place, and not just something that would collect dust after an initial casual read through.
Anyway, I figure of the bunch of woodturning books the seller has on offer, at least one of them should be good enough to get me through the basics and hold my interest as a reference book long after I've read through it once or twice (the more detailed/ colour pictures there are - the better, usually- as far as my learning/ interest habits are concerned.)
So, I was wondering what one book (if any) that some of you would recommend to a new turner (who, otherwise, knows his hand tools etc, quite well), from this list of books that I have a chance to buy from at the moment:
Books that are still available to me:
-Modern Wood Turning by Gordon Stokes (1973)
-The Practical Wood Turner by F. Pain (1974)
-Practical Designs for Wood Turning by Roland Seale (1977)
-Creative Woodturning by Dale L. Nish (1975)
-Artistic Woodturning by Dale L. Nish (1980)
-The Craftsman Woodturner by Peter Child (1981)
-Woodturning Techniques by W J Wooldridge (1982)
-Woodturner's Companion by Ron Roszkiewicz (1984)
-The Woodturner's Bible by Percy Blandford (1986)
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Books that I missed out on already:
-Ideas for Woodturning by Anders Thorlin (1977)
-Woodturning for Pleasure by Gordon Stokes, Robert Lento (1980)
-Turning Wood With Richard Raffan Taunton Press (1985) (I've read a lot of people recommending Raffan's books)
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I have also already missed out on these non turning specific books that I really wanted/ have heard good things about - so I'm trying to make sure I don't miss out on too much more:
-Encyclopedia of Furniture Making by Ernest Joyce (1976)
-Tage Frid teaches Woodworking Book 1 Taunton Press (1979 and 85)
-The Practical Woodworker by Bernard Jones (1983)
-The Workbench Book by Scott Landis Taunton Press (1987)
and a bunch of others
Any strong recommendations for one of the available turning books would be much appreciated.
Thanks (and sorry about the post length)
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23rd June 2009, 10:52 PM #2Retired
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-The Practical Wood Turner by F. Pain (1974) Old style but it is a good read and the principles still apply.
The best book IMHO for beginners is "A foundation course by Keith Rowley."
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23rd June 2009, 11:03 PM #3Retired
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Books - and I have a few - are fine.
If I had my time again, I'd be investing instead on some lessons with some of the experts here on the board and elsewhere. I missed my chance with Vic Wood when he got crook a while back, more the pity.
Or try finding a good turning club or just borrow some books or DVDs. (I have a few that I can send if you're interested).
But there is nothing like having someone stand next to you and just quietly tweak the chisel (without intrusion), just to get the tool cutting right. (Thanks ).
That said, I've just ordered another 3 books on turning!
And more, I've just watched Ken W for 6 hours on DVD and have learnt heaps too.
It does get hard though when some of the wise ones preach different ways.....
MTBW anyway.
Jeff
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23rd June 2009, 11:11 PM #4New Member
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Thanks for the quick reply, .
Keith Rowley's "Woodturning A foundation Course" is the one I have seen recommended the most along with Raffan's stuff, I was on the look out for that one from this particular seller, but, unfortunately, I don't think he has it.
How would you say "The Practical Wood Turner" stacks up to "Woodturning A foundation Course"? Is it a case where I'd be likely to get close to the same quality of information from the former, albeit in a less interesting/ presentable or quickly/ easily digestible manner?
I think I'd do best with a book that offers the most condesed format of efficient summarization and illustrated detail. I don't know if any of the above books offer that, but if I can find a book that is as to-the-point as possible while being easy to read and has a lot of nice pictures to look at, then I'm hoping that would be enough.
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23rd June 2009, 11:22 PM #5Skwair2rownd
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Wouldn't get too hung up on the higher end books just yet.
Personally I think Mike Darlow's books are as good as any and much better than most. His videos are also first rate.
It was by following, assiduously, Mike Darlow's instructions from the video "Taming The Skew" for using the skew that I overcame my fear and became fairly proficient fairly quickly.
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23rd June 2009, 11:28 PM #6Retired
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23rd June 2009, 11:31 PM #7New Member
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Yeah, I can see what you mean about the lessons, and watching videos has definitely always proven to be more effective in teaching me something much more quickly/ easily than reading about it (whatever the subject may be.) That's one of the reasons I have put off buying books for so long...a short 5-10 minute video or two here and there, and I've got my answer. Lesson learned, more often than not.
But, when it comes to books, I was also always trying to avoid getting myself caught up in the collectors trap - which I'm highly prone to succumbing to when I'm really interested in certain things, and I knew books on woodworking would incite my hoarding tendency more than most other things I like. Buy one... then 10 more, then 20 more, etc, etc (I can feel it coming on already and I haven't even received my books yet.)
Most of all, I've always been afraid that the reading (and even the videos -if they are long enough) would take away too much from my Hand's-On time - which I enjoy the most, of course. But, that's where the big trade off/ pay off -balancing act comes into play, I guess (especially when you try to deal with all of the conflicting/ varying methods and information being fed to you from all of these different experts/ books/ videos- as you mentioned.)
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23rd June 2009, 11:40 PM #8
What said.
Keith Rowley's Foundation is as close to a Dummy's Guide as it gets; using plain, down-to-earth language while getting across all the important points.
Best of all, he doesn't bother you with all the fiddly little details that many books do... details which are more the author's opinion than hard, cold facts and the sort of things that cause arguments any time you lock any two woodturners in the same room. (Isn't that what these forums are for? )
I still use it as a reference on odd occasions.
- Andy Mc
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23rd June 2009, 11:48 PM #9New Member
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I guess I should have mentioned that, ultimately I plan on applying most of what I learn about woodturning towards use on a human powered lathe (treadle or possibly even spring pole for a while, at first.) So if there are any books out there that would suite my needs in that regard much better than any other, maybe I should be asking for that one above all?
I'm not anti-power tools or anything like that, but I don't tend to use them at all out of preference for the feel of hand-tools. I'm more of a Roy Underhill type when it comes to my outlook on working with wood and tools in general. I plan on eventually having my own little place off the grid (somewhere far away from these damn Canadian winters) where I can spend my days building things out of wood and living about as simple as simple can be.
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24th June 2009, 12:07 AM #10
You mentioned Roy Underhill.....his book "The Woodwrights Workbook" has plans for both a treadle and spring pole lathe.
Welcome to the forumCheers,
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24th June 2009, 12:33 AM #11New Member
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Thanks.
I'm buying The Woodwright's Companion (1983) off of this seller, right now. Next, I hope to buy Roy's latest book " The Woodwright's Guide: Working Wood with Wedge and Edge (2008)" which I believe has an updated section on Roy's treadle lathe plans, although I'm not sure if it's the same design as the one from "The Woodwright's Workbook (1981). I'll probably end up buying all 6 of his books in the end, anyway
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24th June 2009, 11:03 AM #12
Books.
Hi there sawtomaticman,
You are certainly a long way from here, no matter. I have all of those books, & as you have put the year date beside them, gives you an idea that they are a little out of date, meaning, that a lot has changed since.
Lathes are different, the Tools used in most of those Books are not HSS. as they are only Carbon Steel. Don't get me wrong, as we all use 1-2 of these Tools today. Tool shapes have changed, as with handles. Look if you think they are really cheap, go for then. I have the top 9. The 2 best as far as I'm concerned are the " Anders Thorin" one for shapes, design & ideas.
Richard Raffan's book. I say if it is good enough for Richard, then it is good enough for me.
Anything He does I do. He is "The Turner" as far as I'm concerned. I also know him to talk to, & that also helps. Well, they are my thoughts, all the best.
Regards,
issatree.Last edited by issatree; 24th June 2009 at 11:03 AM. Reason: I did it again Neil.
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24th June 2009, 03:17 PM #13
I have so far only read the Keith Rowley and Ritchard raffen books from that list and both were great. I have read a few others in the local library but can not recall the titles. I picked up sone tips from most of them.The Keith Rowley one got me started turning as I was luckey enough to get it with my first lathe. As to the question of what book is best I would just be aiming to read as many as opertunity presents and chances are every one will have something useful that you can try sometime.
Regards
John
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24th June 2009, 04:10 PM #14GOLD MEMBER
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The Mike Darlow videos put me to sleep - boring boring boring.
The info in them was pretty good, just the voice - yikes!!
Ended up watching them without sound!
Cheers,
Andrew
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24th June 2009, 07:01 PM #15Senior Member
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I also started with Keith Rowley's Fondation Course and then moved onto his Projects book. He explains all the basic rules you need to get started.
Ken
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