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  1. #46
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    Why dont you pick up all the cat crap and return it to your neighbour. I'm sure he will appreciate a bit more then. Even in his letter box better still.

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    I am a dog person, wife is a cat person and we have one of each. Yesterday I finished the outdoor cat run for stupid (cat not wife) and he is loving it. We are growing natives to try and bring in wildlife so don't want any cats (ours or others) using our yard as a hunting ground. Any cats found in our garden will be gone, if you cannot responsibly own a cat (keep it under control) and live near me then don't expect to see your cat again. Many new housing developments have covenants with cat curfews or no cats at all due to the problems they cause and their irresponsible owners.

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    Damien, no-one is talking about coming into your yard or house to hurt your family pet.

    BUT, keep your animal in YOUR house, where the nuisance it creates is YOUR problem.

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    There's been several threads along these lines that I can remember, and each time there are a few small-minded imbeciles who post DIY remedies such as those above. Whether it is in seriousness or to get a rise, it is about time the moderators got off their asres and deleted those posts when they occur. I'd remind the moderators of the rules of this forum:

    By clicking on the Agree button when you register to become a member of Woodwork Forums you warrant that: you will not use this Bulletin Board to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law.

    I'm sure all of those posts fall under one of those categories.
    It is about time there was a zero tolerance to cruelty to animals.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mic-d View Post
    It is about time there was a zero tolerance to cruelty to animals.


    Cheers
    Michael
    Which of course includes those selfish uncaring cat owners who allow thier cats to roam at will slaughtering defenceless native animals who have no natural instinct to defend themselves.

    Any cat outside of its yard should be shot DEAD on the spot.

    Oh hang on, out of mind out sight and cats are just so cute hey


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    Unhappy Other Pests

    Perhaps one of the differences here is that there is a [ another ] difference between
    City Dwellers and Country Ppl who depend on the land for survival.

    Out here we have
    Cats
    FERAL cats
    Dogs,
    FERAL Dogs / Dingo Cross
    Horses
    FERAL Horses
    Pigs
    FERAL pigs
    Foxes

    Indian Mynas
    Sparrows
    Starlings

    Cane Toads
    Yellow-margined box turtle
    Argentine ants
    Fire Ant

    Here are some more,
    few seem "Silly" but are a real Pest
    http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/q...3556/sch3.html


    Which are the Problem?

    The introduced ones.
    Which should we dispose of or not dispose of ?


    Similarly with Plants,

    Lantana,
    Mother of Millions
    Cane needle grass
    Giant rat's tail grass
    Wild Turnip.....Very Very Pretty

    The lists go on.
    Navvi

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    Quote Originally Posted by dazzler View Post
    Which of course includes those selfish uncaring cat owners who allow thier cats to roam at will slaughtering defenceless native animals who have no natural instinct to defend themselves.

    Any cat outside of its yard should be shot DEAD on the spot.

    Oh hang on, out of mind out sight and cats are just so cute hey
    As I've said on previous occasions, there is always a dumb human behind problems like these (cats, toads whatever). Animals do what is instinctual and when this conflicts with the local ecosystem, restrictions need to be applied by humans. NO animal deserves a cruel death or torture, and in the urban environment, no domestic animal deserves instant death else a situation like the 7 year olds story might follow. I don't see you jumping up and down about human sprawl and developers that not only kill poor defencless native creatures but remove their homes too. In the end we humans are resposible through our direct and indirect actions for the vast majority of ecosystem degradation.
    chew on that
    Cheers
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    It is all very well to philosophise on the why and who is responsible. As a small landholder in the country (25 acres) close to a regional city (Bendigo) the problem of feral cats, and to a lesser extent feral dogs, is a real one.

    Most of my neighbours, and I, have to live with this problem and deal with it. The normal way is to set cat traps and when caught administer an overdose of lead.

    If that offends some people, then I would suggest they come and visit my property, or properties like it, and view the result of feral cats on the environment.

    The problem is real enough for Bendigo Council to take positive action and legislate for a cat curfew, which is a step in the right direction. Making it illegal for people, except recognised cat breeders, to own cats that have not been de-sexed would be a very good next step.

    Being a country dweller my view is that the only good cat is a dead cat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mic-d View Post
    I don't see you jumping up and down about human sprawl and developers that not only kill poor defencless native creatures but remove their homes too. chew on that
    Cheers
    Michael
    Well Michael start a thread on human sprawl and I'll join in with you, or perhaps you havent been reading the global warming thread where I identify that humans are damaging the planet and that we need a sustainable human population and to live with nature.....do keep up .

    Of course I am not condoning torturing cats....just making the observation that cats torture to death millions of our native animals each year but thats fine for thier owners because they dont see it. My first wifes cat did bring her bunnie wabbit once, well two halves, one half in the lounge room and we just followed its insides to the dining room to find the other half....I bet that bunny wabbit had a wonderful death

    As for cats....I'll meet you half way......any outside thier property should be HUMANELY put down.....see, we can always find a middle ground .

    So what I propose is a govt sponsored trapping programme in cuddly soft cages put all over the countryside and any trapped are humanely put to death.....surely you cant argue with that .

    "Dazzler and MicD sitting in a tree
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan in Oz View Post
    Here are some more,
    few seem "Silly" but are a real Pest
    http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/q...3556/sch3.html

    Thier not silly, have you SEEN how many Asiatic Elephants are clogging up the roads north of Bundaburg.......its a disgrace


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    Damien / Mic-d,

    Are your cats restricted to inside your house? If not how do you prevent them leaving your property when outside?

    HH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyHammer View Post
    Damien / Mic-d,

    Are your cats restricted to inside your house? If not how do you prevent them leaving your property when outside?

    HH.
    They get a stern talking to before being let out..

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    Go Dazzler, i totally agree with you, as a cat hater myself it's people like Damien who seem to have no problem with this useless flee bag killing our wild life. Is it any wonder some of our native animals are facing the endangered list. I am not saying that cats are to blame for this demise, but they certainly are not helping the problem. What really gets me cheesed of is i have a dog and i keep it in my yard, unfortunately cat lovers seem to think that they don't have to abide by the same rule. if i had sats destroying my garden i would firstly approach my neighbour and depending on the response i get, if it to be like stiff s**t mate, then the cat would be getting a nice saucer of milk with a couple of asprin to fix the headache. And don't worry Damien they don't suffer for very long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smeds View Post
    Go Dazzler, i totally agree with you, as a cat hater myself it's people like Damien who seem to have no problem with this useless flee bag killing our wild life. Is it any wonder some of our native animals are facing the endangered list. I am not saying that cats are to blame for this demise, but they certainly are not helping the problem. What really gets me cheesed of is i have a dog and i keep it in my yard, unfortunately cat lovers seem to think that they don't have to abide by the same rule. if i had sats destroying my garden i would firstly approach my neighbour and depending on the response i get, if it to be like stiff s**t mate, then the cat would be getting a nice saucer of milk with a couple of asprin to fix the headache. And don't worry Damien they don't suffer for very long.
    why is it considered acceptable to kill someones pet cat if it strays into your yard?

    Is it acceptable to slit the throat of the dogs that continually use my backyard as a dumping ground? Going by the cat haters logic, it would seem yes.

    I don't have a problem with the killing of any feral animals. It should be law that all cats and dogs are desexed when sold/passed on as pets.
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    Martrix, damned right it is.

    I'm fed up with neighbourhood pests. A plague on all of them.

    Before this thread I didn't know the efficacy of aspirin and panadol for dogs and cats. Now I know a way to rid our neighbourhood of the 24-hour barking, whining menace that the council chooses to ignore.

    A pity it doesn't work on dirt bikes being illegally ridden on public land. If someone can solve THAT problem for me, I'll be a happy man.

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