Thanks Thanks:  0
Likes Likes:  0
Needs Pictures Needs Pictures:  0
Picture(s) thanks Picture(s) thanks:  0
Results 1 to 8 of 8
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    37

    Default Using broken up concrete as fill...

    Hello,

    Easy question. I am building a 1m high retaining wall using trated Pine Sleepers. I recently broke up a Patio and have about 2 cubic meters of rubble, mostly about the size of a football.
    I was planning on spreading it out behind the wall then covering with soil.

    Is this okay to do, I have not found any info on this for or against.

    Thanks.

  2. # ADS
    Google Adsense Advertisement
    Join Date
    Always
    Location
    Advertising world
    Posts
    Many





     
  3. #2
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Vic
    Posts
    182

    Default

    Pros:

    1. you can dispose of the concrete rubble for free
    2. you will need less soil to backfill the wall

    Cons:

    1. the rubble is very large, and there will be lots of voids in amongst the chunks. If you top it off with soil, the soil will work its way down to fill these gaps over time, and with rain. This will result in significant subsidence at surface level.
    2. you cant compact these chunks of concrete, so you cant build anything more than a garden bed on top of/behind the wall due to subsidence (see above)
    Young kids cancels shed time

  4. #3
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    SE suburbs, Melbourne
    Age
    60
    Posts
    142

    Default

    Perhaps it may be possible to speed up the settlement/subsidence by using loose sand (eg. not packing sand), give it time & rain to settle, then top it with soil????
    Not sure how it will work in practice, just a thought.

  5. #4
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Cronulla, NSW
    Posts
    58

    Default

    I have used concrete rubble in similar situations...as stated main issue is avoiding voids. I put in a layer of rubble (trying to avoid chunks resting on each other) covered with loose/sand soil and a bit of a hose to dampen down...another layer of rubble, sand, hose etc....

    On one occassion the final layer of rubble finished at about 2/3rds the final required height so i gave it a bit of whacking with a sleeper and then covered it with some leftover scraps of blueboard to help spread any settling effect (gaps here and there for drainage) and topped up with soil. Seemed to work OK with no settling.

  6. #5
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    In a House
    Posts
    353

    Default

    Yes I have done it I excavated the front of my house down to the footings to waterproof it as we had seepage issues !! in the process I took out a set of concrete stairs big slabs and dropped them in, then filled the voids with blue metal!!!

  7. #6
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    Kuranda, paradise, North Qld
    Age
    62
    Posts
    5,639

    Default

    Backfill with rubble and then trench rock to fill the larger voids to about 100mm from the surface. Top off with geotextile cloth and then topsoil.

    Mick
    "If you need a machine today and don't buy it,

    tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."

    - Henry Ford 1938

  8. #7
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    37

    Default

    A lot of good advice there. Thank you all very much!

  9. #8
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Sydney
    Age
    64
    Posts
    2,378

    Default

    line your sleeper wall first with geotextile so dirt doesn't wash through the joins then follow Micks advise....although I wouldnt worry too much about filling the voids. I would just give it a good tamp with a plumbers bar or sledgey as I was filling it (IE in layers) to reduce the gaps.

    Make sure that the rubble layer is fully enclosed in textile, and think about what is going to happen to the water that drops through the rubble IE do you need an agg drain at the bottom?

Similar Threads

  1. broken plane, broken heart
    By fletty in forum HAND TOOLS - UNPOWERED
    Replies: 17
    Last Post: 15th July 2007, 01:55 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •