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  1. #1
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    Default A Tall Shed Story from My Shed Supplier

    Hi All Shed Lovers,

    I thought I would share with you a tall story from a Perth Kit supplier- I have been doing the investigations around the suppliers and selected a pre fabricated 6 x 3 x 2.4 shed and a 3.1 x 1.2 x 2.2 storage locker Colourbond Classic Creme from a brand as advertised in the Sunday Times / West Australian. Price good at under $2K and upon inspection at their premises was solid and adequate for my job.

    Ordered it 6 weeks ago with a promise of a three week turnaround, OK happy with that. Called after 4 weeks, young bird on the desk was pretty cagey, said she would look into it, no reply, 5th week called again, said she would check with boss.

    6th Week and the story comes out. "Really sorry about this, but the installers rolled the trailer last week with some of 6 x 3 in Creme and lost all the load. The persons due to have theirs installed that day jumped up the queue and now we do not have enough material for yours, sorry" "We aren't ordering any kit for at least 3 months while they reconfigure the factory for fencing" so that's it, no shed, nothing, zip!!!!!!!! "Sorry" "We have plenty of green ones " was the consolation prize....Never mind that I ordered cream and live in the Classic Cream Capital of the world (Perth).

    I never blow my stack (being an IT project manager you cannot), but though what a load of tripe, seriously is this the best they could come up with. I'm glad at least I did not put down any $ deposit and I'll definitely take my business elsewhere.

    And then that leaves me back to square one. Need a kit build 6 x 3 x 2.4 workshop that won't break the bank. Every $ saved goes toward the tools....

    Please feel free to trump me with your tall stories and / or reccomendmend a descent supplier of kits that are not going to sting me >3.5K !!!

    Cheers........DC

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    Don't buy Spanbilt.
    Piece of s..t, sold by Bunnies.

    1/2 mine blew down one windy day (6x3m, cost around $900 (a few years ago now).
    Contacted the company who were not in the slightest bit interested. Gave some stats about storm ratings etc, which suggested that the weather I had experienced should have been well within the shed's capabilities. But they were not interested in any sort of warranty claim. I didn't even want my money back, just wanted the few panels that had been bent beyond use replaced.
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    Damon think your self fortunate you had not paid any deposit. At least you are free to have another look, small consolation I know.
    David L
    One of the great crowd beyond the bloom of youth on the Sunshine Coast

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    Default Get one of these!

    Maybe you should catch one of these and just point it in the direction of the shed co!
    http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...ad.php?t=53116
    Geoff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damon_11 View Post
    Hi All Shed Lovers,

    .... 6 x 3 x 2.4 shed ....
    Cheers........DC
    That's a real low act.

    But as your looking again, consider higher walls. I was really supprised when I ordered my 9 x 6 with 2.7 walls and then out of pure interest asked how much more for 3m walls. When the guy said $125 it became a no brainer. To be able to stand things on end in your shed enables so much more room, it's well worth the spend (note I agree, spend on tools but lets face it, you also needs space.)

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    Which Perth kit supplier did you contact?


    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart. View Post
    1/2 mine blew down one windy day (6x3m, cost around $900 (a few years ago now).
    Contacted the company who were not in the slightest bit interested. Gave some stats about storm ratings etc, which suggested that the weather I had experienced should have been well within the shed's capabilities.
    I read a note from the Queensland Building Services Authority a month or two ago which was a bit of a salutory warning.

    In short it appears that the supplier of a kit shed has no liability for its structural integrity, at least in terms of the Building Code. ALL the responsibility for it's structure falls on the erector.

    This seems to mean, if you do it yourself, and the design is inadequate, you will have a bit of a problem getting compensation. On the other hand, if some one erects it for you, legally they become responsible.. (Qld advice only!)

    Cheers,

    P

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    Quote Originally Posted by bitingmidge View Post
    I read a note from the Queensland Building Services Authority a month or two ago which was a bit of a salutory warning.

    In short it appears that the supplier of a kit shed has no liability for its structural integrity, at least in terms of the Building Code. ALL the responsibility for it's structure falls on the erector.

    This seems to mean, if you do it yourself, and the design is inadequate, you will have a bit of a problem getting compensation. On the other hand, if some one erects it for you, legally they become responsible.. (Qld advice only!)

    Cheers,

    P
    I read this also, and it seems pretty crazy. If I erect a shed for someone (and I've got absolutely no plans on doing any, thank you very much) and I do it right, but the thing blows away in a cyclone because it's under-engineered then I'm liable for it? I know that locall there was a three way legal bunfight happening (or was it four way?) as a large shade/shed structure at one of the bowls clubs collapsed during construction. The bowls club was suing the bulder for loss of income, the insurance wouldn't pay up, and the builder and the designer were each pointing their finger at the other. It must have finally been resolved as I read the other day that work had recommenced.

    I know who won:

    The lawyers

    Mick
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    tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."

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    In Perth, Stratco is a major supplier of garden sheds. They will deliver and erect the shed but they will not fix it to the slab (they will supply all the fiittings, including the dynabolts). Fixing to the slab is your problem. If the shed blows over in a storm, it's your fault.

    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekim View Post
    Which Perth kit supplier did you contact?
    Hey Mike, I'll leave the rotten sods unnamed, but starts with T&....

    My buddy next door also had a poor rap for Shedco which was disappointing as they look good, but believe thin on metal and short on essentials like teks.

    Anyhow, my investigation continues. Other neighbour thinks Shedman products are good for the price.

    Cheers.......DC

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    I have also had good reports about Shedman & thats where my MIL got hers from & it was a very reasonable price/quality. Let us know how you go on as I'm looking for one a similar size/price.
    M

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    Quote Originally Posted by journeyman Mick View Post

    I know who won:

    The lawyers

    Mick
    Yee ha

    Seriously, I would have thought that the engineer who specified the shed could be liable in negligence or contract in any state. The builder, if building to specs, would not generally be negligent but could be liable in contract if they are doing a supply and erect. It's all a question of what the facts are in each particular circumstance.

    Based on my shed building experience, the supplier supplied the materials, design and engineering details. They also provide an erection service. I think that is the norm for most suppliers to do the lot and make money on every stage. I cant see how they could possibly escape liability if they ultimately design the shed and it is erected correctly. Is is possible that they haven't distinguished between supplier and builder?

    If I use this example, then the builder is on the hook. I approach ACME Builders and say I wanna big shed. They say no probs, that'll be 20 grand. I pay, they build. There, my contract is only with the builder and he is my first port of call if the design is not up to scratch. Negligence is also a possibility against a third party but I not going to go on about tort law here.

    But as I said above, it all depends....

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    I'm really not up on what happened, all I know is that it took well over a year to get it sorted. So, yeah the lawyers won.

    Mick
    "If you need a machine today and don't buy it,

    tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."

    - Henry Ford 1938

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    About two years ago, I looked at garden sheds from various suppliers including the Shedman. Two issues with the Shedman: firstly, I'm over 1.8m tall and as I moved to the side of the shed, I banged my head against the roof; secondly, the metal around the latch was very flimsy. You could break it apart with a bread knife (maybe this has been strengthened).

    In case, you are wondering I didn't buy any shed (a large unexpected expense chewed up my shed budget). As a general comment, the sheds from Stratco were structurally the best but are relatively expensive (and the side walls are high enough so that I don't bang my head against the roof).

    Finally, some of the cheaper sheds have a sliding door(s) as a standard fitting but some suppliers do offer proper doors as an option (= more money). Avoid the sliding doors because they could become difficult to open as the runners accumulate dirt and grit.

    Regards,

    Mike

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    I got mine from Shedco a year back (is that really all its been??? strewth seems longer somehow) and its a shed... but a peice of crap shed... but its a shed... keeps the sun out at least doesnt keep the rain out and needed some serious additional C beams installed to keep the roof up... but its a shed

    I had a good experience with Aussie Outdoor mob when I had a 6x6 garage installed in Mandurah a few years back... cost a tad more and I had to find my own concreter but they erected it no worries... only issue I had with it was the sliding doors didnt fit and water came in until I put some rubber seals around them and a mess of silicone under them... but for a shed it was solid and well put together.

    Shedco's one I have at present is 6x9 and NOTHING FIT... not a bloody thing... the metal is thin as a cigarette paper and the joiners at the roof pitch arent worth snot... they are tied to that other mob whos name I cant think of at present but they both advertise in the Quokka appearing to compete but I know my reciept order sheet has both their names on the bottom of it

    I think the price is whats gonna undo you if you want anything with some meat in it

    The Shedco one they wouldnt erect or even nominate anyone to erect it... it was delivered that was it what I did with it from there was up to me and their plans were absolutely worthless!

    Check the companies out and what theyre offering try to get one with girders in the roof area remember triangles ADD strength! so the more sections they have in the roof structure the more strength up there... dont be fooled into thinking cause its wide open its better ITS NOT get one with a roof structure not just two beams meeting with a small triangle peice to join them together!... for mine I NEEDED to make a 100+ klick race to get hold of some DECENT C channel to hold the sodding thing up! Seriously the roof sagged in the middle

    My next one shall be 2 x 40ft sea tainers with a 20ft at the back and a STEEL girder truss roof frame!! DAMN THE SODDING SHED COMPANIES!! Id prefer the argument with the shire than buying some peice of thin crap and payin an arm and a leg for the "privalige" of erecting the thing myself

    ooh and good luck!

    oh and in line with Ekim up there... the roller doors are worse than useless!! the damned things dont hold up the locks break the arms to the locks fall of and... well... damn an I was in a good mood too!
    Believe me there IS life beyond marriage!!! Relax breathe and smile learn to laugh again from the heart so it reaches the eyes!!


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