Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 25
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Sydney
    Age
    53
    Posts
    8,879

    Default Why lockable chain window winder??

    Can a wiser person tell me the propose of a lock on a chain window winder?
    When it is locked the window cannot be opened or closed. Why?


    HTB1IYF8OpXXXXXwapXXq6xXFXXXr.jpg
    Visit my website at www.myFineWoodWork.com

  2. # ADS
    Google Adsense Advertisement
    Join Date
    Always
    Location
    Advertising world
    Age
    2010
    Posts
    Many





     
  3. #2
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    South Australia
    Posts
    4,470

    Default

    So the baddies cam't get in

  4. #3
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Sydney
    Age
    53
    Posts
    8,879

    Default

    That is what I do not understand. When the window is closed it cannot be opened from the outside whether there is a lock or not.
    Visit my website at www.myFineWoodWork.com

  5. #4
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    ACT
    Age
    84
    Posts
    2,578

    Default

    Hi,
    So that the ankle biters can not mess up the ventilation flow.
    Regards
    Hugh

    Enough is enough, more than enough is too much.

  6. #5
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Darkest NSW
    Posts
    3,197

    Default

    We have that style of chain window winder with lock - I think you'll find it is possible to lever the windows open from the outside when not locked. It would require considerable leverage (e.g. a crowbar), but can be done, at least on the design we have.

  7. #6
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Helensburgh
    Posts
    7,696

    Default

    I have the same question as the winders they replaced did not have locks.
    CHRIS

  8. #7
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Sydney
    Age
    53
    Posts
    8,879

    Default

    Thanks

    I have one in the house. I hate it because it is too easy to lock it accidentally and too hard to find the key.
    Visit my website at www.myFineWoodWork.com

  9. #8
    Join Date
    Apr 2016
    Location
    Mooroopna, Victoria, Australia
    Age
    33
    Posts
    228

    Default

    If left a little open, they can be pulled open, with effort. It's how I used to get into Mum and Dad's when I forgot my keys.

  10. #9
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Sydney Upper North Shore
    Posts
    4,464

    Default

    After being robbed last year (window jimmied open) I had the choice of putting window locks on all windows or cop a large premium increase.
    As I have winders at the back of the house and the bathroom, I asked the same question as the winders replacements for the bathroom cost a bomb and also meant I had to rebuild sections of the sill dressing!
    The answer was that people like to leave winder windows partially open for air flow and a thief can get their hand in and wind the window fully open and get in at night when people are sleeping, You can lock the winders in a partially open position. My statement that they would have to be a very thin thief to squeeze in through the window even when it was fully opened was not well received.

  11. #10
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Sydney
    Age
    53
    Posts
    8,879

    Default

    Thanks. It makes sense now.
    Visit my website at www.myFineWoodWork.com

  12. #11
    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Location
    Bentleigh East
    Age
    50
    Posts
    423

    Default

    I can't believe this is the best design they could think of for a cheap and practical window opening mechanism. It's terrible. Unless there is something better out there and we are the terrible house owners who select this one. But I'm guilty as well, I searched and this was all I could find, and I installed it, and I hate it with a passion LOL

  13. #12
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Sydney
    Age
    53
    Posts
    8,879

    Default

    I have one in my house. The lock button is in the way so the winder gets locked accidentally all the time.
    Visit my website at www.myFineWoodWork.com

  14. #13
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Oberon, NSW
    Age
    63
    Posts
    13,354

    Default

    Terrible design, agreed.

    But I can understand the market being driven by insurance. Sadly the insurers don't seem to look at actual effectiveness, just so long as the word "lockable" is involved.

    eg. Quite a few years back I was living in a high-risk area, in an old house with old sash windows all 'round. I drilled through both sashes in each window and tapped for M4 bolts. These were solid, although I did need to keep a small shifter handy if I wanted to change the openings.

    However, I couldn't get the house contents insured until I replaced them all with commercial pins, which served the same purpose.... sort of. Except that the pins were narrower, as the whole thing, body and all, fitted in the holes I'd made for the bolts. Worse, once I didn't align the sashes properly and bent the allegedly toughened pin by simply trying to push it in.

    Still, even though these were in no way as strong as my original M4 bolts, the insurer was then happy to cover me.

    I guess they feel we must give the bugglars a realistic chance to break in before they'll provide cover.
    I may be weird, but I'm saving up to become eccentric.

    - Andy Mc

  15. #14
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Sydney Upper North Shore
    Posts
    4,464

    Default

    The windows in my bathroom are casement windows and the winders move a set of arms so the window can be locked in any position from closed to wide open (90o).
    Actually not a bad system - better then the chain type.
    The lock, however, is a joke! It’s a tiny pin that goes into the end of the handle but it meets the insurance criteria so if their happy, I’m happy.

  16. #15
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    ACT
    Age
    84
    Posts
    2,578

    Default

    Hi,
    Actually it,s all a joke as windows can be broken.
    Or they could ram raid your house.
    Regards
    Hugh

    Enough is enough, more than enough is too much.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Chain Mortiser - Chain set
    By onetwoone in forum WOODWORK - GENERAL
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 17th January 2019, 04:04 PM
  2. Chain saw Chain Quality
    By STAR in forum SMALL TIMBER MILLING
    Replies: 40
    Last Post: 6th March 2012, 07:20 AM
  3. What chain to Use
    By bigdb1 in forum SMALL TIMBER MILLING
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 13th February 2012, 07:58 PM
  4. Help-Which chain to use
    By chipperno1 in forum SMALL TIMBER MILLING
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 11th August 2010, 08:52 PM
  5. box chain
    By Ivor in forum BOX MAKING
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 19th March 2006, 10:58 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •