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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxinator View Post
    No kidding, not available that I have seen over here. Are they the type like the 10mm or they like a 5mm where you need to make a chamfer?

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    I get my 8mm barrel hinges online at www.boxmakersbrassware.com.au they don't require any chamfer, are identical to the 10mm variety and if you drill out the holes for them before you split your top from the bottom (and before you fit your lid) they will be perfectly aligned
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    John

    Thanks for that much appreciated have will contact them

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    Dumb question time. How do you drill the holes before you separate the top from the bottom?
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    Quote Originally Posted by outback View Post
    Dumb question time. How do you drill the holes before you separate the top from the bottom?
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    Depends on how you construct your box - I generally make the sides first and fit a base and lid later. After the sides have been assembled/glued and the glue has set, I drill the barrel hinge holes through from the top edge to a depth which will accommodate the full length of the barrel hinge. The lid then is attached to the top of the box sides and conceals the barrel hinge hole. You just need some way of marking the top from the bottom so when you then split the box you do so thru the middle of the drilled hinge holes
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    Thanks John for the link. These would be nice to have.

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    Hi all, I dug this old thread up, it caught my attention as I was browsing posts. With this 5mm concealed hinge, the directions say to drill 7.5mm into your timber. But if I drill in that far the hinge sticks out a heap.

    Seeing as the hinge is 20mm in total length, I drill in 10mm into my timber (back and lid) and it seems to work pretty fine.

    Or am I doing this all wrong,..??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls321 View Post
    I drill in 10mm into my timber (back and lid) and it seems to work pretty fine.

    Or am I doing this all wrong,..??

    Paul
    If it works for you, you're not doing it wrong. That is the way I do it, and funnily enough, it works for me too. I think, though, that if you don't chamfer the back, you'd have to only drill to 7.5 or so. The result would look pretty ugly IMHO.
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    Hi Paul, If you have to sink the hole 10 mm top and back i would think that you may be using the 10 mm hinge which is 19 mm long. out side of that I can't see that you are doing anything wrong. The 5 mm hinge doesn't work without chamfering the back unless you leave a large gap between the top and base.See this link http://images.rockler.com/tech/39578.pdf

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    OK, I just went & checked my 5mm barrel hinges. Some are 14 mm and some are 18+ mm, bought at different times and from different places. Sounds like you may have longer hinges but shorter instructions.
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    Oh Dear....all that work getting the info & uploading it.
    Most of the answers to queries in this thread have been in the forum Library for yonks.

    https://www.woodworkforums.com/f246/box-bits-114898/

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    It's great info Noel, but it doesn't address the discrepancy between the instructions to drill 7.5mm and hinges that are 19mm long.
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    Nup......didn't see that one coming
    It's probably the difference between Hong Kong, Taiwan and Chinese rulers. And OZ ones too.

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    Default thanks fellas

    thanks fellas, I am sure there is some discrepancy in those guides. The hinges I have are definitely 5mm concealed hinges and are definitely 20mm in overall length.

    I've got a mate down the road who is also a mad woodworker, I lent him a couple of these hinges that I bought. (I bought them from the brassware site chap, think he is over singleton way). My mate read the instructions which I printed out, even the ones that come with the catalogue also say drill 7.5mm. My mate was convinced that you should only drill in 7.5mm. So I did a test on some scrap timber, the gap was enormous.

    I've nearly finished a few of my "initial" boxes, I must take some pics and put on here,

    Regards, Paul

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