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Thread: My first blanket box
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11th April 2012, 09:43 PM #1SENIOR MEMBER
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My first blanket box
Hey!
I'm about to start planning my first blanket box. I've got some redgum/bluegum or something like that which is approx 5m long, 250mm wide and 50mm thick.
For those who have made one(and anyone else), what is the maximum and minimum thickness you would use for the sides and ends? I'm also unsure if I want to do a solid timber and dovetail box or a frame and panel box. Any suggestions would be awesome.
I want it to be strong but not look too chunky.
Thanks in advance!
Lewis
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11th April 2012, 09:58 PM #2
What size will the box be?
Sound like awesome chunks of wood.... Steve
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12th April 2012, 07:53 AM #3
If you make the whole thing out of 50mm thick boards it's going to be a very heavy unit when finished. Have you got the ability to resaw and dress the timber?
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12th April 2012, 08:29 AM #4SENIOR MEMBER
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The size would be 1m x 500mm x 500mm.
Yep, I can resaw and dress. I was looking into trying to get some 19-20mm boards out of it but I'm not sure how much I would lose once it's sawn and dressed.
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12th April 2012, 08:50 AM #5
You'll get 19 mm after re-sawing.
If you want it light going the frame and panel will allow you to go down to about 15mm on the sides.
Thus saving about 20% in weight.Steven Thomas
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12th April 2012, 08:54 AM #6GOLD MEMBER
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Just as certain as the sun comes up in the East (last time I looked), somebody will find it exactly the right size to sit on or better yet, stand on. IMHO, A contrasting frame and panel would be interesting to look at.
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12th April 2012, 09:02 AM #7
Hi Lewis,
Assuming you are using a well set up bandsaw for resawing, you should only lose about 5mm in the cutting and probably another 2mm in the planing. Even 18mm will give you a strong box. I am also assuming that you have rough sawn timber, which means you will have to take the loss for planing the flat surfaces and edges into account.
I used lock mitre joints on my blanket box. These joints are hairy to make, but really strong.
So, if you end up with 10m of 18mm Gum, you will use the following: (Again I am assuming you have a full 250mm width of usable timber.)
Front and Back: 4 metres
Sides: 2 metres
2 metres
?Bottom: 2 metres.
It'll be tight, allowing for kerf when cutting to length. Maybe a slightly smaller box?
Here's mine, anyway. It's Jarrah and is 1000mm x 500mm x 500mm. The lid is slightly oversize to give a "lip".
Regards,
Rob
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12th April 2012, 09:11 AM #8
If you can re saw with a band saw you would end up with approximately 24 mm thick you could then dress this down to your 19/20 mm boards.I personally would go with the dovetails or finger joint but this is really just a personal preference that would suit me. I have made 6 toy/blanket boxes over the years and have used every thing from miter to the dovetail and finger joints. The side and ends from solid to V joint the v joints set in a dado top and bottom and a 90 degree v joint for the corners.The attachment is a rough sketch of how i did the corners.
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12th April 2012, 09:48 AM #9GOLD MEMBER
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I made a blanket box with frame and panels between solid legs.
The frame pieces were 19 -20mm and the infill pieces about 10mm thick.
All cut from old red gum fence posts using my band saw.
I don't know how to link back to my thread about it but if you do a search under Blanket Boxes and my name it should come up for you to see.
Hope that helpsTom
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12th April 2012, 04:37 PM #10GOLD MEMBER
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What the Hello kinds of bandsaws do you OZ people play with?
I'd like a big (to me) saw but you cut 50+cm in one pass?
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13th April 2012, 08:37 AM #11
Hi Robison,
You have mm (millimeters, 10 of these to the centimeter) and the cm (centimeters 5.8 of these in 2 inches) mixed up. But if you check one of the other forums on here you will see that some of the guys use large band saws for cutting the trees into usable timber.
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13th April 2012, 11:01 PM #12
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14th April 2012, 01:50 PM #13SENIOR MEMBER
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Thanks for your wisdom.
Rob, I really like those those joints but I'll probably being trying finger joints(they might be a bit advanced for me at the moment). I've attached a simple plan of the box.
The only trouble I'll have with the timber is that it's reclaimed. I was told that 99% of nails are pulled from it but there is a small chance there might be some left. I'll be getting a metal detector in the next week so I'll be able to check thoroughly. I read a blog from a guy who uses magnets to search for nails. I might give that a go as well.
I might have enough timber to try a frame/panel box as well, I'll be looking into finding some contrasting timber to go with it.
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14th June 2012, 08:03 PM #14SENIOR MEMBER
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A bit of a progress report.
This has been a fun learning curve,. I started with the idea of finger joins and somewhere along the way I decided to go with some dovetails. Apart from doing some practice ones, these were my first attempt. There will be a few gaps but I'm pretty happy for a first attempt.
Someone has suggested to me to mix sawdust and glue together to fill the gaps. Thoughts?
The pictures show what I started with, after dressing and joining the timber and cutting out the dovetails.
Tomorrow I should have everything cleaned up and ready to glue. I'm pretty excited thats it's coming together!
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14th June 2012, 09:09 PM #15
Looking good. It's coming along nicely.
Sawdust + glue works well.
I use PVA with lighter-coloured sawdust for things like that and Araldite with dark, reddish (Jarrah) sawdust for borer holes, cracks etc.
Be aware, though, that if you're staining, stain won't soak into the glue. I think that at least some commercial fillers are stainable, though, if you are going that way.... Steve
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