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1st January 2007, 06:38 AM #1Senior Member
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Box lid question
I have a question on a box lid I am doing. The lid is going to be a Maple burl but not sure if I should make the whole panel out of burl (which seems a waste) or if I could get away with just doing the top 1/8" out of burl and veneer that to some Birdseye Maple. I am using maple for the dividers and handles so that would match when the box was opened. However, I am a bit worried about wood movement with the veneer idea. The top panel will be 9 1/2" x 7 1/2". The other thing I could do would be to venner the top and bottom of the panel to a piece of ply, but by the time I get it resawed and planed, I would use almost as much burl as if I just did the whole panel in burl. Any ideas/thoughts on this? BTW, I am not interested in lining the inside lid. I want wood to show when the box is opened.
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1st January 2007, 07:30 AM #2
I'm no expert, but from my experience with burls a solid panel is not a good idea.
But I've got to ask, why do you say that veneering it to a piece of ply would waste more material than veneering it to Birds-eye Maple? Either way you'd use just as much Burl but using ply would save on some Maple and be a saving, wouldn't it?
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1st January 2007, 07:49 AM #3Senior Member
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Well, first I suck at resawing. Tend to use 1/8" of waste for each cut still. getting better though. Veneering both sides would probably use almost as much burl as doing solid. With the burl/maple veneer, I would only veneer one side saving my precious burl and still having wood on the inside. Does that make sense or am i just confused again?
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1st January 2007, 01:51 PM #4
How's sunny Seattle ?
I've found good luck in veneering both sides (See my Holiday Jewelry box post, where I put Sycamore on one side and purple heart on the other. Post 20 and Post 30)
I also looked at you drawing and if you were to cut the angle where shown, any slip up (unless you sneak up on it) might expose the under lying layer.
I really like putting a ply middle due in a very large part to lid stability.
Anyway, I'm sure it'll come out great. Can't wait to see the box.
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1st January 2007, 04:04 PM #5
Perhaps this is nit-picking. I thing MDF is a superior substrate to ply, unless you are using a cabinet makers grade, then it's pretty much the same. The advantage of MDF is that it is absolutely flat and stable. It has no voids and will not delaminate. If using a thin veneer (less than 2mm), 'telescoping' can be a problem. Telescoping is when over time the minor irregularities in the substrate telescope through the veneer. The veneer can take on the grain pattern of the substrate. If you use MDF, there is no grain pattern or irregularities to contend with.
Although using 3/16 (almost 5mm) this is unlikely to occur.
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