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    Default What Is The Easiest Way To ..

    1. Make a small box
    That is what type of construction etc
    2. Fit panels etc in the top and base
    3. Make a few boxes of identical size
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    Bob, the simplest are made with the table saw. Get a longish board and cut a plow for the bottom, then the top. I cut the plow for the top about 1/2 mm bigger.

    Cut the board into two ends and sides. Using the TS again, cut two dados either end for a lock rebate join. Cut a plow in the front to hold the lid. Finally, cut the top and bottom to fit.

    Join the lid to the front then cut it free with a backsaw. Assemble after finishing the interior.

    If that doesn't help, one of these links may (note some are probably broken, I haven't checked them for a while).

    Box, Joiner's
    Box, Firewood
    Box, Flower
    Box, Fruit Dryer (PDF)
    Box, Garbage Hutch
    Box, Gift
    Box, Glue Tote
    Box, Grab-it-and-go glue tote
    Box, Ice (ZIP)
    Box, Indoor Window
    Box, Jewelry (PDF)
    Box, Jewelry (ZIP)
    Box, Jewelry (ZIP)
    Box, Jewelry - Classic
    Box, Joiner's
    Box, Knitting
    Box, Lego Storage
    Box, Lidded Turned
    Box, Mah Jong
    Box, Money
    Box, Moving Picture
    Box, Multimedia Storage Tower
    Box, Mushroom Keepsake
    Box, Music/Jewelry
    Box, Newspaper Recycling
    Box, Oil Stone
    Box, Owl
    Box, Patrol (Camp)
    Box, Poker Chip
    Box, Portable Wood and Wire Bin
    Box, Potato Onion Vegetable Bin
    Box, Tool Box, Tote
    Box, Toy
    Box, Tracing
    Box, Tracing
    Box, Turtle Disk (PDF)
    Box, Turtle Trap (PDF)
    Box, Vegetable Bin
    Box, Wood and Wire 3-Bin System
    Box, Wood Duck
    Box, Wood burned (Dog Pattern)
    Box, Wooden Letter
    Box, Woodland and Wildlife Nest
    Bench, Child's Toy
    Boxes and Platforms
    Box, Puzzle Box, Raccoon and Common Merganser Nest
    Box, Router Bit
    Box, Router Bit
    Box, Scouting Patrol Kitchen
    Box, Shaker Style Wall Candle
    Box, Shoeshine (ZIP)
    Box, Shop Vac Muffler
    Box, Small (ZIP)
    Box, Solar Beeswax Extractor (PDF)
    Box, Songbird
    Box, Squirrel - Eastern Gray
    Box, Stairway Storage
    Box, Steam
    Box, Tape Measure
    Boxes on castors
    Boxes, Band sawn
    Boxes, Planter
    Boxes, Shaker
    Boxes, Small - made with your router
    Boxes, Transportable Take-down
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    See if this helps Bob. Notes for a courrse I run.
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    I find mitred boxes to be an easy and satisfying technique for making small boxes. This thread shows the process:

    https://www.woodworkforums.com/f87/veneer-lidded-boxes-33333

    I basically follow a method in Box-Making Basics -- Design, Techniques, Projects, by David M. Freedman, (Taunton Press, 1997). This is an excellent book, with lots of ideas very clearly explained.
    Those are my principles, and if you don't like them . . . well, I have others.

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    Thanks all for some very helpful info.
    Regards, Bob Thomas

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    Here ya go






    Oh...you mean a real box ) ..............


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bwillie View Post
    Here ya go






    Oh...you mean a real box ) ..............


    ICN, Bill
    Regards, Bob Thomas

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    Many thanks for the terrific posts.

    Wonder if you can help with a gluing query ... for mitred corners can you get away with one of those threaded rod/right angle clamp setups, or is it important to knock up a jig to get pressure perpendicular to each mitre face? Initially I'm thinking of a mitre alone with a splined mitre further down the track.

    TIA
    Cheers, Ern

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    Note sure I understand the question, but here are some options for clamping small mitred boxes. Band-clamps also work well, but these particular boxes were too small.

    Those are my principles, and if you don't like them . . . well, I have others.

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    Wow. Allsorts!

    Thanks ZW.

    The bottom right version is what I was wondering about .. no spline or tongue in the mitre in that case?
    Cheers, Ern

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    With splines you'd have to insert them prior to glueing. With keys (which I used here), you cut the slots for the keys after glueing up the box (see posts near the one linked to above).
    Those are my principles, and if you don't like them . . . well, I have others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by echnidna View Post
    1. Make a small box
    That is what type of construction etc
    2. Fit panels etc in the top and base
    3. Make a few boxes of identical size

    It's all in the Gifkins video, including panel construction

    If you don't have a Gifkins, just use box joints instead.

    Box Making Video
    If at first you don't succeed, give something else a go. Life is far too short to waste time trying.

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    Thanks ZW. Yep. Figured that. My question tho is whether that bottom right style of clamp would work OK if the joints were just mitres butted against each other.

    Gumby, not sure if I've seen that one. Is it about dovetailed joints only?
    Cheers, Ern

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsser View Post
    My question tho is whether that bottom right style of clamp would work OK if the joints were just mitres butted against each other.
    Yes: the mitres are simply butted against each other in the photo. Certainly strong enough to be handled enough to cut the key slots. For small boxes like that, I daresay you wouldn't even need the keys.
    Those are my principles, and if you don't like them . . . well, I have others.

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    IMHO, if the mitres are a good clean fit, you don't need any extra joinery. The mitres in the J/box I made were just glued, but did have a rebated ply base which was inserted during glue-up to aid with squareness and strength.
    I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.
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