Thread: Gifkin Mod Version 0.01

Pretty slick idea, quick and easy! Nice job.

Corey

I like your idea, I'd be a little worried about it coming lose. From the pictures you have an early model Jig but with the alloy stop.

How many times have you used it this way?

How much force do you apply when clamping the timber in?

My concerns would be:
will the MDF jig hold up to the extra strain that it wouldn't have normally had, and
will the stop handle the extra strain that it too wouldn't normally have had.

Neither the jig or the stop were designed with this mod in mind.

However, good thinking just the same.

What about those folks like myself who have an early model Jig that has the stop made out of timber, what should I do to successfully use your mod.?

Sheddy, a great idea but I semi agree with George.

I don't see how it will put any abnormal strain on the MDF as the timber is normally clamped to it anyway but I would be very cautious about how much force is used to clamp the timber as the clamps will have a tendency to put very abnormal strain on the 90deg bend of the stop.

Shedhand, that looks like a nifty mod. Got to admit that one of the things that always put me off the Gifkins jig was that huge G clamp (the other being the cost )

Have you used this a fair bit so far? Is the holding power of these as good as the huge G clamp?

Fred

IWOULD ASSUME that it willthrow the stop out of 90degrees. What aboutif the clamp was on the jig.Good idea well done.

Originally Posted by Just George

I like your idea, I'd be a little worried about it coming lose. From the pictures you have an early model Jig but with the alloy stop.

I bought this jig at the Hobart WWS late 2005 so i don't think its the old model. It was the latest model when I bought it. It came with the alloy stop.

Originally Posted by Just George

How many times have you used it this way?

Only once to see if it secured the wood tight enough. Mind you, you still have to ensure that everything is firmly set and square before commencing to cut. This is Version 0.01 so some tooling around will be necessary before I deem it idiot proof. I already have an improvement or 2 in mind.

Originally Posted by Just George

How much force do you apply when clamping the timber in?

Enough to hold the timber firmly but the improvement I have in mind will enable a lesser force to be applied but still hold the timber firmly in place.

Originally Posted by Just George

My concerns would be:
will the MDF jig hold up to the extra strain that it wouldn't have normally had, and
will the stop handle the extra strain that it too wouldn't normally have had.

This can only be ascertained over time but is not an issue with the newer alloy model.

Originally Posted by Just George

Neither the jig or the stop were designed with this mod in mind.

True but the mod (especially with the improvement i have in mind) doesn't put undue pressure on either component.

Originally Posted by Just George

However, good thinking just the same.

What about those folks like myself who have an early model Jig that has the stop made out of timber, what should I do to successfully use your mod.?

Not a lot said spot other than buy an alloy stop from Roger.

Originally Posted by Billylad

I WOULD ASSUME that it will throw the stop out of 90 degrees.

Not that I can measure..

Originally Posted by Billylad

What about if the clamp was on the jig.

I thought of that quite a while ago but it couldn't be done if you wanted to work with stock that was different widths as you would be forever screwing and unscrewing the clamp to reposition it.

Originally Posted by Billylad

Good idea well done.

Thanks mate.

In any event I only came up with the idea today so I wouldn't recommend that anyone races out to the shed and butchers their Gifkin Alloy stop. I'll keep working on the idea and report back on whether its really worthwhile or not. Besides Roger might get a bit miffed if I do it without consulting him first. Better do that now.

Cheers

Well there you go. There will be no further development of this mod. 'Why' you ask. Coz Roger has already dunnit. Shuda known.

Great mod. Here's his. I'll be getting a pair when I can get some money.

Damn,bad luck,just when you get a good idea,and you could have made amillion,

Originally Posted by Billylad

Damn,bad luck,just when you get a good idea,and you could have made amillion,

Yeah, my life story. I already made enquiries about this.

I wonder when Roger will have these for sale on his site? He said toward the end of 2006...better hurry Roger or you are gonna be late.

Although I must admit I do like the setup Shedhand has. I also already have some of those clamps setting around my shop.

I have a pair of the clamps and holders, tried them and switched to a seperate clamp because the B10 cutting bits were moving the workpiece when they cut in. Worked well for the fingerjoint and A10 bits though.

Just could not get enough pressure on the workpiece with the Bessey Kliklamp.

Cheers

Nigel

Ah well, modify the concept, and concoct a vacuum system instead - both hands can hold the work in place, and flick a lever with a foot to bind the work tightly to the jig

Originally Posted by Nevyn

I have a pair of the clamps and holders, tried them and switched to a seperate clamp because the B10 cutting bits were moving the workpiece when they cut in. Worked well for the fingerjoint and A10 bits though.

Just could not get enough pressure on the workpiece with the Bessey Kliklamp.

Cheers

Nigel

Hmm...on second thoughts I have another plan....

Originally Posted by mlsa

I wonder when Roger will have these for sale on his site? He said toward the end of 2006...better hurry Roger or you are gonna be late.

Although I must admit I do like the setup Shedhand has. I also already have some of those clamps setting around my shop.

Just hold the bus Tex. I have to rework the mod. I did some cutting today and found that indeed the stock was moving ever so slightly but enough to ruin the fit of the joints.. I have an idea which may fix the problem. Don't go drilling holes yet.
Cheers