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Thread: Gifkin Mod Version 0.01
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8th January 2007, 04:42 PM #1
Gifkin Mod Version 0.01
Should I patent this idea?
The only thing I don't like about the Gifkins jig is the method of securing the wood to the jig when cutting the joints. I've watched Roger do it with his hefty G clamp and he makes it look pretty easy. However, for someone like me who struggles to get my joints working together (in my hand I mean) a clamp is too cumbersome and sticks in my chest when I lean over the table. I've tried the smallest Bessey DuoKlamp which is a 1 handed clamp but its still too cumbersome.
So I says to meself, "there's gotta be an easier way". My old man always said give the hardest job to the laziest man and he will find the easiest way to do it. So I applied this tried and true method to the gifkins and came up with this.
I had the small lever clamps sitting around waiting for a use. I just drilled 4 x 3/16th holes in each side of the sliding block and fixed the clamps with 3/16th nuts and bolts.
Voila! And it works. Comments welcome.If you never made a mistake, you never made anything!
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8th January 2007, 04:49 PM #2
Pretty slick idea, quick and easy! Nice job.
Corey
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8th January 2007, 05:00 PM #3GOLD MEMBER
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I like your idea, I'd be a little worried about it coming lose. From the pictures you have an early model Jig but with the alloy stop.
How many times have you used it this way?
How much force do you apply when clamping the timber in?
My concerns would be:
will the MDF jig hold up to the extra strain that it wouldn't have normally had, and
will the stop handle the extra strain that it too wouldn't normally have had.
Neither the jig or the stop were designed with this mod in mind.
However, good thinking just the same.
What about those folks like myself who have an early model Jig that has the stop made out of timber, what should I do to successfully use your mod.?
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8th January 2007, 07:24 PM #4
Sheddy, a great idea but I semi agree with George.
I don't see how it will put any abnormal strain on the MDF as the timber is normally clamped to it anyway but I would be very cautious about how much force is used to clamp the timber as the clamps will have a tendency to put very abnormal strain on the 90deg bend of the stop.Have a nice day - Cheers
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8th January 2007, 07:50 PM #5
Shedhand, that looks like a nifty mod. Got to admit that one of the things that always put me off the Gifkins jig was that huge G clamp (the other being the cost )
Have you used this a fair bit so far? Is the holding power of these as good as the huge G clamp?
Fred
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8th January 2007, 09:20 PM #6Senior Member
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IWOULD ASSUME that it willthrow the stop out of 90degrees. What aboutif the clamp was on the jig.Good idea well done.
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8th January 2007, 11:23 PM #7
I bought this jig at the Hobart WWS late 2005 so i don't think its the old model. It was the latest model when I bought it. It came with the alloy stop.
Only once to see if it secured the wood tight enough. Mind you, you still have to ensure that everything is firmly set and square before commencing to cut. This is Version 0.01 so some tooling around will be necessary before I deem it idiot proof. I already have an improvement or 2 in mind.
Enough to hold the timber firmly but the improvement I have in mind will enable a lesser force to be applied but still hold the timber firmly in place.
This can only be ascertained over time but is not an issue with the newer alloy model.
True but the mod (especially with the improvement i have in mind) doesn't put undue pressure on either component.
Not a lot said spot other than buy an alloy stop from Roger.
Originally Posted by BillyladOriginally Posted by BillyladOriginally Posted by Billylad
In any event I only came up with the idea today so I wouldn't recommend that anyone races out to the shed and butchers their Gifkin Alloy stop. I'll keep working on the idea and report back on whether its really worthwhile or not. Besides Roger might get a bit miffed if I do it without consulting him first. Better do that now.
CheersIf you never made a mistake, you never made anything!
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9th January 2007, 07:04 PM #8
Well there you go. There will be no further development of this mod. 'Why' you ask. Coz Roger has already dunnit. Shuda known.
Great mod. Here's his. I'll be getting a pair when I can get some money.If you never made a mistake, you never made anything!
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9th January 2007, 09:38 PM #9Senior Member
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Damn,bad luck,just when you get a good idea,and you could have made amillion,
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9th January 2007, 10:04 PM #10
Yeah, my life story. I already made enquiries about this.
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9th January 2007, 11:12 PM #11Member
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I wonder when Roger will have these for sale on his site? He said toward the end of 2006...better hurry Roger or you are gonna be late.
Although I must admit I do like the setup Shedhand has. I also already have some of those clamps setting around my shop.
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9th January 2007, 11:29 PM #12
I have a pair of the clamps and holders, tried them and switched to a seperate clamp because the B10 cutting bits were moving the workpiece when they cut in. Worked well for the fingerjoint and A10 bits though.
Just could not get enough pressure on the workpiece with the Bessey Kliklamp.
Cheers
Nigel
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10th January 2007, 12:05 AM #13
Ah well, modify the concept, and concoct a vacuum system instead - both hands can hold the work in place, and flick a lever with a foot to bind the work tightly to the jig
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www.Stu's Shed.com
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10th January 2007, 12:14 AM #14
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10th January 2007, 12:23 AM #15If you never made a mistake, you never made anything!
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