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22nd February 2020, 05:56 AM #16GOLD MEMBER
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Joe, Same as what Alex did, here was mine (Link below), just a simple slide lid, but if you make the lid oversized first then sand down gently, you will and can get a snug fit. Spray the irons with machinery spray first, then put Silica gel bags in with it.
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23rd February 2020, 09:33 AM #17GOLD MEMBER
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Joe,
heres what ive done so far, it’s 45 mm deep so u can then just put a protector on the slide lid if that’s the way you go. My plane in as reference.
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Let me know if I should keep going!!
Richard
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23rd February 2020, 10:28 AM #18GOLD MEMBER
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thanks Richard, well done!! Looks great. Did you build the foam up in layers glues together?
I think now I will fit it in a box with a hinged lid, rather than in a box with a sliding lid. The Bedrock 605 I have is 60mm wide, so 45mm foam thickness will go well, and allow me to get my fingers in to lift it out.
What is the best way to cover the white foam ?regards,
Dengy
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23rd February 2020, 11:06 AM #19GOLD MEMBER
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I will cover with crushed velvet. It’s 2 pieces of 3 or 4 ply foam.
i can also leave out the section between the handle and the iron if u want gives u easier access to get out.
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23rd February 2020, 11:45 AM #20GOLD MEMBER
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Crikey, this is going to look pretty swish, Richard. Probably a good idea to leave the centre island out, thanks
regards,
Dengy
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23rd February 2020, 10:13 PM #21
There's another way of making inserts that may be a bit over the top for a one off, but is good if you're going to make a few the same, or one that's really complicated. I've used it for pen boxes, boxes to contain puzzles and one for a candelabra that I couldn't think of any other way to make. I know this would be easier to explain with pictures, but the system seems to be very slow tonight, so I'll try to put some in tomorrow.
First, make a negative model of the shape you want the insert to be. Make this the inside bottom of a box. The box needs to be able to have a top screwed or clamped on. Make a top with all the screw holes and do a test fit. This is to ensure that you can get it on an screwed tight quickly. drill a few small holes in the top. these are to relieve pressure inside the box.
If the shape is not rounded or is deep, you also need to make a positive model of the shape, but with about 1mm play between it and the negative in all directions.
If you've made both positive & negative models, soak some pigskin suede in water, wring it out and clamp it between the two models for about 12-24 hours. It doesn't need to be completely dry, but it should be fairly stiff when you remove it. Use enough suede to cover the sides of the mould.
Remove the positive model of the insert and leave the suede fitted over the negative model.
Now put on your protective gloves
Here's where the messy fun starts. Inject expanding foam as evenly as you can over the suede and spray some water on it. Don't worry about getting it too even - it will expand and push into any corners. Quickly screw the top on. I've used Sikkens expanding foam, but this should work just as well.
You will now see the foam expand in the box until, hopefully, it comes out of the pressure relief holes. If it doesn't happen, you haven't put enough foam in, so put some more in through the holes. I've never seen that happen.
Leave the box sealed up for however long the instructions say the foam takes to set x 2 before removing the insert. You can cut the insert to thickness using a saw or, as I do, an electric bread knife. (don't tell my wife.)
As I say, you wouldn't use this for every job, but it has its place.
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25th February 2020, 07:59 AM #22
These are the photos that I was going to post the other day.
This is the candelabra box insert. This one is lined with velvet rather than suede.
First, make a model of the piece...
1Base & pattern.jpg
then attach it to the bottom of the mould box...
2Pattern in box.jpg
Insert the foam...
3Inserting foam.jpg
and after it's set, remove the insert.
4After foam set.jpg 6Candlestick in insert.jpg
The stationery box was done in a similar way, with suede lining.
Pen mould.jpg
exp foam.jpg
Tray with contents.jpg
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25th February 2020, 08:44 AM #23GOLD MEMBER
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thanks for this, Alex, brought back memories. In the zone substations I used to design and build back in the day, we had 4" holes in the concrete floor for the high voltage cables to come up from the basement to the HV switchgear. We used to use a lot of this yellow expanding foam to seal the hole after the cables were installed, to prevent snakes and vermin getting up into the switchroom. Still had snakes though, they seem to get in anywhere. I never liked walking in the narrow gap between the switchroom wall and the rear of the HV switchgear where the HV cables were terminated, not much escape room in the event of an explosion or a snake.
If the shape is not rounded or is deep, you also need to make a positive model of the shape, but with about 1mm play between it and the negative in all directions.regards,
Dengy
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25th February 2020, 05:29 PM #25GOLD MEMBER
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Got it !! Thanks Alex
regards,
Dengy
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