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12th July 2015, 09:33 PM #1Member
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Pins?
Hi guys.
I normally skulk around the metalwork forum which you have kindly allowed us some space to use.
Trouble is, now I have ventured out with my 8 year old grand daughter into the woodwork side of things. I purchased a cutlery box made in 1913, and I believe (my knowledge is thin here) that it is english oak. Its a magnificent piece of craftsmanship still sound after 102 years.
It has two levels under the lid and all of the racks/shelves etc were held in place with simple push in steel pins.
I stripped it down and after many many many hours of careful sanding I am ready to french polish it and reconfigure the innards as a jewellery box for the girl.
Problem is, where do I find pins like the original ones. They looked to me to be a simple push in type, very thin. Not keen at all on affixing screws from the outside of the box. I intend to french polish it and then put the baize in and put polished battens inside over the baize to separate jewellery etc.
I guess the other option is to make a simple H pattern divider and just sit it in on top of the baize.
All comments gratefully received.
regards
Old Hutcho
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12th July 2015, 09:42 PM #2
Were they brass pins or just steel?
Will they be seen from the outside at all?
Dave TTC
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12th July 2015, 10:17 PM #3Member
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Dave.
They were steel pins. About the same diameter as a dressmakers pin but much shorter. They were concealed under the material. I may have to insert four pins (two at either end) from the outside but being so small in diameter I believe I can pretty well disguise their presence. The rest will be inserted from inside and the hole filled and polished.
Thanks for the interest.
Old Hutcho
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12th July 2015, 10:39 PM #4
Well that was going to be my suggestion. Use dress making pins and cut them short. If they split the timber cut the sharp point off.
I have a spring loaded push thing that was my dads. I've found it usefull for pushing in pins and small brads.
It is like a piston with an outer sleave if you can imagine what im talking about. About the size of a screwdriver
Dave TTC
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12th July 2015, 10:56 PM #5Member
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I imagine there was some long defunct tool used by these english craftsmen to do this stuff. I guess they made hundred. I couldnt see the pins until I started to pull out the innards. I am stunned by the workmanship that went into these boxes. All the corners of mine are still flush and tight. Its just amazing.
I will take on board your suggestion to cut down some pins. Why should I take the point off them? Does this minimise splitting in the wood. I am using tassie oak battens inside.
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Old Hutcho
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12th July 2015, 10:59 PM #6
Some timbers split easier than others and yes a sharp point can create splitting. I blunt end pushed in without splitting. Sometimes even a blunt end does not help.
When i have not had this tool handy I have just used some pointy nised pliers and pushed them in this way.
Dave TTC
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12th July 2015, 11:05 PM #7
By having a blunt end to nails (pins), you change the nail's movement from what is a wedging action to a shearing or punching action. The point on a nail is great at pushing the grains of timber apart (read - split), especially near the end of a board that you have just lovingly sized, planed, finished, etc.
The majority(?) of woodworkers don't know this; onya Dave!
Jinks! Dave and I posted at the same time.Last edited by CAG; 12th July 2015 at 11:06 PM. Reason: Jinks! Dave and I posted at the same time.
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12th July 2015, 11:27 PM #8
As an aside, recently on the Forum (I thought it was in the Pallet Challenge section?) I saw a BIG denailer being used to punch out nails in pallets. Much more oomph than a spring punch.
Found it, (post number 8): https://www.woodworkforums.com/f255/consistent-supply-4x2-hardwood-blackbutt-195628Last edited by CAG; 12th July 2015 at 11:36 PM. Reason: Found it
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