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    Hi guys.

    I normally skulk around the metalwork forum which you have kindly allowed us some space to use.

    Trouble is, now I have ventured out with my 8 year old grand daughter into the woodwork side of things. I purchased a cutlery box made in 1913, and I believe (my knowledge is thin here) that it is english oak. Its a magnificent piece of craftsmanship still sound after 102 years.

    It has two levels under the lid and all of the racks/shelves etc were held in place with simple push in steel pins.

    I stripped it down and after many many many hours of careful sanding I am ready to french polish it and reconfigure the innards as a jewellery box for the girl.

    Problem is, where do I find pins like the original ones. They looked to me to be a simple push in type, very thin. Not keen at all on affixing screws from the outside of the box. I intend to french polish it and then put the baize in and put polished battens inside over the baize to separate jewellery etc.

    I guess the other option is to make a simple H pattern divider and just sit it in on top of the baize.

    All comments gratefully received.


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    Old Hutcho

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    Were they brass pins or just steel?

    Will they be seen from the outside at all?

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    Dave.

    They were steel pins. About the same diameter as a dressmakers pin but much shorter. They were concealed under the material. I may have to insert four pins (two at either end) from the outside but being so small in diameter I believe I can pretty well disguise their presence. The rest will be inserted from inside and the hole filled and polished.

    Thanks for the interest.


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    Well that was going to be my suggestion. Use dress making pins and cut them short. If they split the timber cut the sharp point off.

    I have a spring loaded push thing that was my dads. I've found it usefull for pushing in pins and small brads.

    It is like a piston with an outer sleave if you can imagine what im talking about. About the size of a screwdriver

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    I imagine there was some long defunct tool used by these english craftsmen to do this stuff. I guess they made hundred. I couldnt see the pins until I started to pull out the innards. I am stunned by the workmanship that went into these boxes. All the corners of mine are still flush and tight. Its just amazing.

    I will take on board your suggestion to cut down some pins. Why should I take the point off them? Does this minimise splitting in the wood. I am using tassie oak battens inside.

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    Some timbers split easier than others and yes a sharp point can create splitting. I blunt end pushed in without splitting. Sometimes even a blunt end does not help.

    When i have not had this tool handy I have just used some pointy nised pliers and pushed them in this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Hutcho View Post
    I will take on board your suggestion to cut down some pins. Why should I take the point off them? Does this minimise splitting in the wood.
    By having a blunt end to nails (pins), you change the nail's movement from what is a wedging action to a shearing or punching action. The point on a nail is great at pushing the grains of timber apart (read - split), especially near the end of a board that you have just lovingly sized, planed, finished, etc.

    The majority(?) of woodworkers don't know this; onya Dave!





    Jinks! Dave and I posted at the same time.
    Last edited by CAG; 12th July 2015 at 11:06 PM. Reason: Jinks! Dave and I posted at the same time.

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    As an aside, recently on the Forum (I thought it was in the Pallet Challenge section?) I saw a BIG denailer being used to punch out nails in pallets. Much more oomph than a spring punch.

    Found it, (post number 8): https://www.woodworkforums.com/f255/consistent-supply-4x2-hardwood-blackbutt-195628
    Last edited by CAG; 12th July 2015 at 11:36 PM. Reason: Found it

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