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    Hi Gang, I am becoming totally fascinated with resin lately. Especially combining it with burls. It's adding a lot more time to making a box but,......who cares. I am still in the experimental stages. That "experimental river box" I put on here some weeks ago, sold within a fortnight. So I decided to make another 3 but not really rivers. I make the lid inserts before I start on the main box. My large boxes are all the same size 315mm x 185mm. The mold I made for the lid inserts naturally accommodates for my box size. I pretty well use panel frame lids now on all my large boxes.

    All the timber apart from the Burl (Coolabah and RedGum) is Australian Red Cedar, a mate at bowls gave me a heap of it.

    The box with the lighter blue resin lid, my wife claimed that before I even started it. She even chose the burl pieces to use.

    The smaller box is very popular also, so I sliced up a heap of my old dribs and drabs just to get rid of some timber and made 22 of these boxes. I am now slowly working my way through making the lids for them.


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    Those are some classy boxes!

    How do you cut the little finger recess in the handle on the tray? Is it done with a core box bit in a plunge router?

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    Hi and thanks David, Interesting question, I've had that drill bit laying around for years. Its actually called a countersink drill bit. I use it in my drill press. Its real purpose is to countersink holes for countersink screws so that they sit flush on the timber. Buts works perfectly for my needs, does a very clean finger grip.

    This bit here is not same as, but gives you an idea of what they are.

    Craftright 3pce Countersink Bit Set | Bunnings Warehouse

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    Wow! I really like those. Reminds me of coastline on an old map. Well done.
    When all is said and done, there is usually a whole lot more said than done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls321 View Post
    Hi and thanks David, Interesting question, I've had that drill bit laying around for years. Its actually called a countersink drill bit. I use it in my drill press. Its real purpose is to countersink holes for countersink screws so that they sit flush on the timber. Buts works perfectly for my needs, does a very clean finger grip.

    This bit here is not same as, but gives you an idea of what they are.

    Craftright 3pce Countersink Bit Set | Bunnings Warehouse

    Paul
    It never occurred to me to use a countersink bit for that - great little tip, I have to try it out for myself

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    Great results, Paul!

    Not difficult to see why they are so popular. The resin seems to work so well on these boxes, much better than on tables somehow. They’d lend themselves to being named like art works - Arnhem Coast etc.

    Do you sell on your own website or through galleries?

    Best regards,

    Brian

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    Just beautiful Paul. I do like the more mottled effect in the resin on the first box compared to the clearer one.
    The last box really looks like a true river the way it contracts and runs off the edge.
    Which brand of resin are you using and I assume its an epoxy resin?
    Dallas

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    Hi Brian and Dallas, thanks for your kind comments. I sell my boxes on Etsy and from that site I have done a lot of custom orders also. But I dont look for or advertise for custom orders these days. I did have a chap down at Canberra who did the weekend markets there and he sent all his custom orders to me to do for him. He gave the markets away after losing his wife. The only "gallery" up this way that I know of, is the Fine Woodwork Shop at the craft village at the Old Butter Factory, Bellingen. I have sold several boxes there, the owner doubles the price he pays to you. But I dont worry about trying to sell there any more.

    I like to poke along at my own pace as i get tied up a lot at my Bowling Club.

    Dallas, I've gone from using West System epoxy resin, wasnt fussed on it that much, then I went to Luci Clear, but it took 3 to 4 days to cure. Now I use Trojan 1000, as the general consensus on the Facebook Australian Pen makers group, was it was the best. I watch heaps of youtube videos on how others do things with resin. There is a lot to learn. I was fortunate a few weeks ago, when we were in Central Western NSW spending time with our son there, I per chance met a woman who owned a resin/accessory shop and also run courses on resin. I spent a quality 45 minutes or so chatting with her and learnt a lot. (also spent $160 with her also).

    Paul

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    Nice work Paul, do you use a box making jig or hand cut?.

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    Thanks double.d. You mean for my dovetail and finger joints? For both I use the Gifkin jigs. I also have the other Gifkin jig for smaller dovetails but find I dont use it very often. A few years ago I made the finger joint (box joint) jig that is on Youtube made my Mattias Wandel, I think everyone would have seen them. I also made his other pantograph jig, bought the plans for both. He is obviously a very clever bloke but at the end of the day those two jigs were a "bit how ya goin". They both ended up in the bin, and it would have been at that time I went up to Gifkin Col's place again and bought the Gifkin finger joint jig and the smaller dovetail jig.

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    I have a box join jig for the table saw but i find it takes far to long to set up so i've stuck with mitre joins but i have just bought some Veritas dovetail jigs and will start hand cutting. The reason i am going this way is because i was at the workshop of a renowned furniture maker last week and had a box with me and he made a broad statement that was really aimed at me and my box prices which he said were way to cheap and i was dragging the prices down and making it hard for people like him who have to make a living from his work.

    Of course he is right but i am torn between volume at reasonable prices or one off's at high prices, which means much less time in the workshop so i'll broaden my price range with some higher priced dovetail boxes.

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    Hi double.d That's a very interesting comment. I must say I love the Gifkin finger joint jig. And you dont even have to change cutters on it, like the dovetail jig. I could knock out the finger joints for a box in a couple of minutes and they are perfect. For small boxes they are great. But I wouldnt use them on a large box. I only do mitre joints when I really have to, which isnt often. Your furniture making friend is right also with his comments. But making custom made furniture is a different game to making small boxes. For quality custom made timber furniture your talking thousands of dollars. I dont this us little boxmakers would affect their business that much. These resin lids/lid inserts take a long time to make/sand/polish, but as long as whoever buys it is getting a very well made box with a lovely finish, I am happy.


    I feel good tonight, that top box I have on here, the first one,....................just sold and thats under a week.

    Paul

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    Great result, Paul! Iím sure your customer is feeling very good too

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    Hi gang, I had 5 boxes started before Christmas and put them all aside when I got a couple of custom orders, then we went away to visit son for a bit. Finally got them all finished now. 3 of the boxes were resin boxes, just a few pics as they are pretty much the same as the others. The resin always adds a different dimension to the result. The two large boxes are made from Australian Red Cedar for the main part of the box, (plus the burl), which was the last of what a mate had given me some time ago. When we arrived home from the trip away, I was surprised to see another pile of this Australian Red Cedar sitting on my front garden. From the same bloke and he reckons there is more to come. So one of these boxes I am about to put up here, the darker resin large one, he will get that one. I already made him one as a return favour which he gave to his wife. This one apparently its his nephew who somehow sources all this cedar, so the nephew's wife will get one also as a favour.

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    Another unique contribution Paul. I think I like the first one more with less resin in the lid. The blue Perlex always looks good in my opinion.
    I have a piece of Blackwood sitting on my bench that I have filled some large defects in with straight red tinted resin and hoping it will look okay. I hope I haven't added too much die and made it too dark as I like to see the wood inside the fill.
    Dallas

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