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26th May 2013, 06:46 PM #1
Tissue box with diamond pattern insert May 2013
Earlier this year I asked about angles to create a box with a diamond patterned insert so here goes.
Because I expect to do some sanding to fit pieces together I have chosen a piece of timber that I call African Mahogany, its soft and its rubbish really, it was lying around at a timber yard ready to go into their scrap bin so I begged it.
Prepared the full length on the P/T and then put to the tablesaw to make some battens lengths.
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Then got out my new super duper mitre gauge to produce 45 degree cuts, ( I did have to replace the saw plate to a zero clearance for the cuts)
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I firstly cut four pieces to rough size and then prepared some maple to create the diamond shaped piece and did a dry run to work out the size of the maple insert.
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Glued up the five pieces using titebond but with quite a few drops of superglue as well to each surface, this held the pieces together with hand holds for two or three minutes. I did put those pins in place to stop any drift whilst glue set after removing my hands. It worked.
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Had a look at these pieces this morning and not quite perfect, so might put rebated borders on top and bottom edges. Also the timber will not plane nicely, (its sapwood) so I shall most probably have to hand sand at a later date to get a decent finish.
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27th May 2013, 07:07 PM #2
I love that mitre gauge, John. Where did you get it? I could do with something similar. Mine are all crap. Does it adjust to fit firmly in a mitre slot?
Looking forward to your next pics when the forum's photo upload problem is fixed.... Steve
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27th May 2013, 08:20 PM #3
There all illustrated here
Incra
You do need to have the traditional mitre slot, see details. I purchased it for the mitre settings, I use a sled for straight cuts.
Yes it does ooze quality. Try the USA might be cheaper there.woody U.K.
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27th May 2013, 09:00 PM #4
Thanks for that info, John. They look great, but way too hot for my meagre budget. Carbatec here in Oz sell the Incra 1000HD, but it's AU$239.
I think I'll go back to my original plan of making my own. I also want to add grub screws or similar in the mitre bar, to adjust for a nice firm fit in the slot. I want it mainly for the router table, but my disc sander and belt/disc sander have the same sized slots, so it can do for all 3. Being cheap equipment, the slots aren't too precise in width, hence the need for adjustment grub screws.
Edit: I just found that Carbatec also sell the Incra Mitre V27 gauge for AU$79, that's more my speed. Incra® Miter V27 : CARBA-TEC... Steve
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27th May 2013, 09:13 PM #5
Its the type of product that comes up with a discount, I purchased mine when they were giving 40% off so I had to buy.
woody U.K.
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28th May 2013, 12:29 AM #7
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28th May 2013, 01:11 PM #8
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28th May 2013, 01:54 PM #9
Thanks for showing them, but the trouble with these is that I'd still need to use my tiny, sloppy existing mitre gauges with them. I need a decent mitre gauge. The plastic ones supplied with many tools is sloppy at the join, buckled and not perfectly flat etc. I can adjust one for whatever angle I want OK, if I have a decent one to start with.
... Steve
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28th May 2013, 05:10 PM #10
One of our uk forum members has had a problem with the v27, the vertical accuracy was not up to standard, I will sort out the thread and let you have a link
woody U.K.
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28th May 2013, 05:20 PM #11woody U.K.
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28th May 2013, 06:37 PM #12
Thanks for pointing that out, John. The fourth post in that thread says that the 1000 model also has the same fault. It might pay to check your's.
Edit: After further reading, apparently the 1000 is intended to be shimmed to square the fence, but the V27 isn't. In that thread, Incra replaced the faulty bracket for the V27.
I think I'll still buy one, and bend it slightly to square if necessary. 4mm steel isn't too hard to budge. A 12" shifting spanner will do it easily.
If it's too bad, I'll send it back to Carbatec and ask for an accurate one or a refund. If it is faulty, I'll also contact Incra directly and let them know.
Incra have a rep as being the best, so I doubt if I can buy a better one elsewhere, without taking the same risk.
I definitely appreciate the heads-up, though. Now I know what to look at when it arrives. My next pension advance is due in two days, so I can have another little tool shopping spree.... Steve
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28th May 2013, 06:51 PM #13
I dont think you would bend it, but even the v27 needs a sacrificial fence added so the adjustment only needs to be made there.
the sacrificial fence is to get the cut line at saw blade edge.woody U.K.
"Common looking people are the best in the world: that is the reason the Lord makes so many of them." ~ Abraham Lincoln
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28th May 2013, 06:58 PM #14
I'll have to make several - one for each machine. I already have one made for the disc sander. I'll probably just need to re-drill it. I still might bend it square, I'll see what happens.
I've bent car bumper irons in the past, they're at least 4mm and more like 5 or 6, so I'm sure I can bend the fence bracket if I feel it's necessary. (I started my working life as a panel-beater.) As mentioned in the thread you pointed out, if it won't bend, use a bigger hammer. In this case, a 12" shifter with a length of water pipe on the handle. No worries.
Sorry for the hijack, by the way.... Steve
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28th May 2013, 07:39 PM #15
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I cleaned up the facings and added mouldings made on the router table in american black walnut.
Then I watched and listened to a video re timber.
Old Barns and Old People - YouTubewoody U.K.
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