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    Default After I saw the top off my box...

    I've made a few boxes where you make the box, then slice the top 1/4 or 1/3 off, then add hinges.

    The sides on this box are too thin for hinges, so I want a lift off lid.

    But after I cut off the top, I can router a groove on the outside edges of one half, but how do I router the inside groove?? Or is there another way to have the lid sit in place?

    Thanks for any help and ideas.

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    Hi, Is it possible to put a sleeve inside the bottom of the box so that it is about say 5mm over the top on all the sides and then your lid should just slide over it and fit perfectly flush.

    Good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by router View Post
    Hi, Is it possible to put a sleeve inside the bottom of the box so that it is about say 5mm over the top on all the sides and then your lid should just slide over it and fit perfectly flush.

    Good luck
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    This is a pretty common way of doing it, and if you use a contrasting timber it can be very nice looking too.

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    I've been doing a few small ones lately where you 'step' the cut between the top and bottom.

    First - before assembling, run a cut on the inside of the box where the break needs to be, just half way thru. Carefully mark the two kerfs onto the outside somewhere.

    Second, after assembly and gluing, then make a cut around the outside, again just half way thru, that is also offset slightly. that way you have two complementary steps so the lid fits in the base and you haven't lost any inside space in the box caused by adding those sleeves.

    (tell me if I need to improve that explanation)

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    You could use a rabbeting bit in the router table. Run the bearing around the outside of the bottom and run it around the inside of the lid. You will have to carefully clean up the inside corners of the lid with a chisel after the router.

    Below is an example of the bits. There must be some sold in your neck of the woods.

    Small Rabbeting Sets - Lee Valley Tools

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    I usually put the sleeve in the lid but ill be trying Bobs approach next time as it will save time.

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    You can use Bendigo Bob's method successfully with a router or tablesaw. If you're planning to use it, it helps to keep a length of offcut from the sides. Make the inside cut on the offcut, then, when the time comes to make the outside cut, you can set it up using the offcut.
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    Thanks Alex. Yes, i did do that last time too and it helped heaps. (Just be sure you know which is top and bottom of the box )

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