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18th January 2014, 02:10 AM #1Member
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Walnut Jewellery box with Neat hinge
Just finished this Walnut box and thought I'd use Ian Hawthorne's new Neat hinges for the hardware, It is always a tough decision which hinges to use and usually the deciding factor is down to price but if you are going to spend time and effort making a box and it is going to be a thing of beauty (hopefully) then it seems a shame to spoil it by fitting cheap hardware which always looks out of place and detracts from the finish.
I also decided to use one of his Neat Locks, I think a box always needs something at the front and it's either a handle or a lock, obviously a lock is added value.
Ian's older type hinges had a knuckle which had to have a small recess cut to allow it to open, these new hinges are made differently and do not require any additional cutting, they make fitting hinges a breeze. Anyone who has tried to fit quadrant hinges will know the problems of making two cuts on each corner and then cutting out a mortise for the stay, these hinges require no more than one cut each corner and screwing in, four passes on the router and job done.
The setting up of your router table is important and it requires some scrap, this is where some forward thinking comes in and a short length extra needs to be produced when cutting the sides of the box. Fitting instructions come with the hinges and lock and a few minutes setting things up accurately pays dividends, my little 8mm cutter actually cuts 8.5mm (I will have to invest in a spiral bit) so the slot is slightly larger than required and leaves an unsightly gap. The hinges and lock measure 8mm across so leave plenty of wood either side of the hinge if you cut your box sides to a minimum of 13mm. As the box needs to be in Lincoln tomorrow I didn't have time to make an escutcheon but will do so next time.
These locks and hinges are highly polished and add that bit of quality to your box, the lock mechanism is firm and secure without any play and locks onto the striking plate firmly but it also moves freely, all in all I think they are well worth the investment for a box you are spending time and effort on.
Ian also does a 180 deg opening hinge for games boards and writing slopes etc. just Google Hawthorncrafts or Neathinge.
I am in the UK by the way, hope the heat is not getting to you folks .
Andy
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18th January 2014, 08:00 AM #2GOLD MEMBER
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That is absolutely magnificent, particularly the lid. Congratulations, and many thanks for sharing.
Can you please tell us a bit about the lid design? Did you allow for expansion of the centre panel?
Can you also please tell us a bit about fitting the lock - that keyhole looks really good - how did you do that?
The keys are very impressive too, well done. How did you make them so thin, and how did you cut the thin slots?
Here in the tropics, it is mid summer, and actually cooler here than in the southern states of Australia, although our humidity make it a bit uncomfortable. Still, a lot better than 2 foot of snow and a freezing workshop
Must admit the ambient in the shed last month was in the 40's, and the tools were hot to handle. You knew it if you put your hand on the saw table cast iron top.regards,
Dengy
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18th January 2014, 08:35 AM #3Skwair2rownd
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That is one stunning box!! Stunning in evry respect!!
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18th January 2014, 08:53 AM #4
Ah yes, that is nice.
RegardsHugh
Enough is enough, more than enough is too much.
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18th January 2014, 01:21 PM #5
Nice one Andy, very professional finish in every way.
Heat isn't bothering us much in the tropics, but people living in the south of the country are experiencing a massive heatwave and bush fires.
Hope they don't have too much more to cope with.
Cheers, Ian"The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot.. it can't be done.
If you deal with the lowest bidder it is well to add something for the risk you run.
And if you do that, you will have enough to pay for something better"
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18th January 2014, 07:30 PM #6Senior Member
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Hi, My face just turned green with envy of the craftsmanship. Nothing more to be said. Cheers Brian.
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18th January 2014, 07:34 PM #7
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18th January 2014, 10:40 PM #8
That is one very nice looking box I would also love to know how the mitre-keys were made so thin .
Pity you didn't have time to do the escutcheon - could have been the finishing touch
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19th January 2014, 06:41 AM #9Member
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The lid was made by framing a piece of Birch ply with 25mm strips of walnut then when it was veneered the edges could be rounded over and only walnut can be seen, the grain then runs around the lid with no end grain on show and the centre being Birch ply it is stable and there will be no movement.
The lock mortise and striking plate is routed after setting a stop either end then the mortise for the body is drilled out on the drill press and a very sharp chisel is used to shave the sides of the drill holes, a 3mm chisel is used to square the ends, the location of the keyhole is supplied with the instructions and then drilled on the drill press, the smaller downward slot is done (very gently) with a Dremel, or it could be filed with a small file.
The keys are made up of five layers of veneer, five being an odd number means you can vary the pattern, in this box there is one layer on the outside and three contrasting layers on the inside, you could have five alternating layers or two either side and one in the middle etc. etc. Five layers of 0.6mm veneer measure 3mm so I had a small cheap ripping blade resharpened to have teeth which have flat tops and a 2.8mm kerf, this blade is now only used for cutting the slots for my splines, when fitting they may be a tad tight, all that is needed is a few taps with a hammer on something solid (table saw) and the fit is exact, sometimes they fit first time, just make sure they go all the way down to the bottom of the slot.
(the ripping blade should really already have flat topped teeth and only about 16 of them so not as pricey as it sounds)
Thanks for all the encouragement chaps, you will be pleased to know it is cold, raining and windy here ....thankfully no snow...yet
Andy
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19th January 2014, 08:33 AM #10GOLD MEMBER
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Thanks for this interesting and helpful reply, Andy
regards,
Dengy
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19th January 2014, 08:16 PM #11
A fine box Andy. The Neat lock is very classy and adds a great touch to the overall design.
And my head I'd be a scratchin'
While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain.
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19th January 2014, 11:21 PM #12
Real nice work Andy, well done.
Regards Rumnut.
SimplyWoodwork
Qld. Australia.
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20th January 2014, 01:04 AM #13Retired
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That's a VERY nice box. Such detail.
The hinges are AUD50 (can't see anything about postage yet)
Big number, but on a quality item they look very nice indeed.
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20th January 2014, 06:17 AM #14Member
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Evan, Big number yes but....Took the box to a craft fair yesterday and it was sold by 2pm for AUD336.7 (£180) so the hinges are worth every penny if you can make that sort of profit and it has to be nice quality if you are going to ask that sort of price, going to ask a little more for the next one....that sold a bit too quickly.
I think you will find that postage is included with Ian's hardware, have a look here;
Hawthorne Crafts Box Hardware - Neat Hinges, Neat Locks, catches | Wooden Keepsake Boxes by Ian Hawthorne
Andy
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22nd January 2014, 08:06 PM #15
I loved this box. All the elements that I would like on the boxes I make. I'm pleased that someone asked about the splines. I could not imagine how you did it so thanks for the explanation. I must give that at try. As I don't sell my boxes yet I'm reluctant to buy such expensive hinges but they do make a nice job, don't they?
Thank you also for the explanation of how you did the top.
A great box sold for much less than it was worth in my opinion.
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