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Thread: WIP - Cutlery Box
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4th September 2007, 09:54 PM #1
WIP - Cutlery Box
I've been trying to build this pink bloodwood cutlery box for about 8 months now and I still can't figure the best way to put in a bottom and dividers.
The pink bloodwood is lovely timber but has all the standard characteristics of working with eucalypts - splitting, chipping, shakes etc
The top is made from the bloodwood and a spalted tas myrtle piece, lovely, but it has bowed during the last 8 months and in all honesty, is way too heavy for the lid - image that crashing down on your hand or finger So I'm going to have to rebuild the lid but I'm sure I'll be able to build another chest to match the lid, including it's bow
The intention is to use brass rod as dowels to attach the sides to the legs. The aim being that there will be only the 4 dowel holes showing on each side.
However, if I keep to that idea, how do I attach a bottom strong enough to take the weight of a large cutlery set without having any additional joinings showing (especially not screw holes!!)
I'd be willing to have a ledge under the sides showing, but it would have to be fairly slim to match .
Anyway, I would appreciate any suggestions as I am quite stuck on this one.
Thanks
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4th September 2007, 10:05 PM #2
G'day Wendy,
How "stuck-together" is the structure at the moment???
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4th September 2007, 10:20 PM #3
Very loose - take out the nails and she'll just fall in a big heap
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4th September 2007, 10:31 PM #4
Great,
then you could cut those furry type critter slots (rabbets or whatever) in the corner posts and the internal sides to insert a base?? Would that support the weight??
ps (I love answering question with at least two more questions)
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5th September 2007, 08:25 AM #5
Hi Watson,
You are right - the only sure thing I've come up with is what you've said, that I will have to cut slots into the legs as support for that area. I'm now thinking that I may need to put in a middle leg or two under the base. My thinking for this is that with all that cutley in there, whatever base I put in will eventually bow and maybe break.
Maybe I should make the legs shorter so it's more of a flat on the bench-type box and then put a rim around the base to hide the bottom
Hmm, no, I think it would be a completely different box if I did that. i think it needs the legs, maybe change it to a jewellry box instead?? Nope, it wants to be a cutlery box!!
Aw heck, I might just wrap it up and stuff in the back of a cupboard again
cheers
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5th September 2007, 11:28 AM #6
If you use a thin bottom it could be supported by the dividers
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5th September 2007, 11:36 AM #7
Like Echnidna says use the dividers. Make the dividers substantial and rebate the base, in seperate pieces into the sides of the dividers. Smaller base sections will be less prone to bending.
Those were the droids I was looking for.
https://autoblastgates.com.au
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5th September 2007, 02:15 PM #8
What is wrong with glueing a strip of wood along the bottom of each side/front/back forming a cleat that a bottom would sit on. Add the slot in the leg as was suggested and you would have a strong bottom w/o screws and such.
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5th September 2007, 05:49 PM #9
Nice work Wendy gee wiz, the new shed has made you productive, I can only give a virtual greeny as the board wants me to spread then around and it thinks that I have given you enough.
PhilTwo things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I´m not so sure about the universe.
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5th September 2007, 06:27 PM #10
Hickory, I like your idea. If I did that as well as included Echnidna's and NCArcher's ideas, it would add a little lip to the sides which wouldn't look out of place if the dimensions are right, and the strength would also be there with dividers as well.
Cool. I think I can now stick these ideas into the back of my head to stew for a little while longer, but these are the best suggestions.
Thanks!!
cheers
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5th September 2007, 07:31 PM #11
I don't think the dividers need to be very thick, 1/4" thick would be stiff enough even if supporting a thin bottom.
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5th September 2007, 07:53 PM #12
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5th September 2007, 08:35 PM #13
Think Drawer Construction...
I think a thin bottom would be fine without any further strengthing as long as it is fully supported on all four edges. After all, kitchen drawers have thin bottoms and are often filled to the brim with heavy cutlery and such. I'd do it with a rebate on all four edges which the bottom would slide into. As long as the edges of the bottom are supported it should be fine.
For the dividers I'd go with thin slotted boards that are not attatched at all. Interlocking slots would be plenty strong to keep things in their place. And done tightly, they joinery would not show at all. Then, if for some reason you added pieces later the dividers could be easily reworked as well. http://www.leeswoodprojects.com/images/Jewelry%20Box.jpg
My two cents.
labolle.“When we build, let us think that we build forever. Let it not be for present delight nor for present use alone. Let it be such work as our descendants will thank us for; and let us think...that a time is to come when those (heirlooms) will be held sacred because our hands have touched them, and that men will say, as they look upon the labor and wrought substance of them, ‘See! This our father did for us.’ “ --John Ruskin. Audels Carpenters and Builders Guide, 1923 Theo Audel & CO. New York.
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5th September 2007, 09:09 PM #14
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HI Wendy, how did you finish the top? Erich
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