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    Hi Les

    No can do,

    At ~95%, alcohol forms an azeotrope, or constant boiling mixture, which is why the commercial product is that concentration. To get 100% requires special techniques.
    Alastair

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    G'day les88,
    Nope that's not gonna work.....sorry.
    The stills they sell are pot stills and at best put out 80%.
    The other deals are reflux stills for a lot more money, and their maximum output is 95%,
    'cos unless you buggarise around with it....that's how ethanol exists.........purify it to 100%, and 10 minutes later its back at 95%. There's a scientific word for it which slips my mind at the moment.
    Industrial meths is a different story.......what is added to the ethanol to make industrial methanol is not a water absorber.....(gotta remember that scientific word).
    There's my $57:47 cents worth.

    Stand by for incoming!!!!!

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    That's the bloody word!!!!
    Thanks Alastair
    Last edited by watson; 20th July 2007 at 10:31 PM. Reason: Found the bloody word

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    Had some experience making hooch had you Noel?

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    No Fred,
    My Mum taught me everything I know about Ethanol........78.5º Good.....68.5º Bad!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jes00m View Post
    I have just finished reading Neil's book cover to cover and cant wait to get started.

    What is the title of Neil's book and where can I get a copy? Any help appreciated.
    Eagles may soar but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.

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    G'day Glen,
    Found here.
    www.ubeaut.com.au/ubhome.htm
    Its called the Polisher's Handbook.......beats the St James version hands down

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    Quote Originally Posted by watson View Post
    G'day Glen,
    Found here.
    www.ubeaut.com.au/ubhome.htm
    Its called the Polisher's Handbook.......beats the St James version hands down
    Bewdy, thanks for the info and the quickness of reply.

    Glen
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    I just stuck my nose into my local resene paints trade depot the other day & had a look at the meths they had on their shelf under their own label.
    It was 95% and and said so on the label.

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    I was in Carba-Tec Sydney the other day and noted that they had bottles of 100% metho. It was on the bottom shelf near where the U-beaut stuff is kept. Can't remember the price. From memory the bottle was probably about 1 litre. It was a fairly plain translucent white bottle with a plain looking label. Can't remember the brand.
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    Haymes distributors sell 100% Metho.

    Otherwise pour it in an open container for a weeks. Tip out the water that is left and you'll be set

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strungout View Post
    Hi Jesmond,

    I am not sure where you are,but Complete Hardware at Eastwood sells it.

    Cheers

    Greg
    Went to Complete Hardware today and asked if they had the 100% Meth, all they could show me was the 96% Diggers brand. Bloke said that was all they ever had.

    Will give Carba-Tec ago tomorrow, this 100% Meth is like finding the Holy Grail....

    Jesmond, did you eventually get the good stuff ???

    Squirrel...

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    That boofhead doesn't know what he is talking about. They do sell it.

    Go to the paint section and ask them.I got some a few weeks ago.

    Its in a 5 LT plastic bottle and has Industrial Metho on it- No brand name.

    Its sitting on the shelf next to the shelac.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strungout View Post
    That boofhead doesn't know what he is talking about. They do sell it.

    Go to the paint section and ask them.I got some a few weeks ago.

    Its in a 5 LT plastic bottle and has Industrial Metho on it- No brand name.

    Its sitting on the shelf next to the shelac.

    Cheers

    Greg
    Thanks Greg,
    Must have been out, I know the shelf you are talking about, checked out the shelac also. The bloke that served me wasn't the usual sales man from that section, but I was with him when he gave the other bloke a call on the phone. I specifically asked for Industrial Meth and got the negative. I suppose all that read this forum bought them out. By the way not a bad little hardware for bits and pieces.

    Squirrel..

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    Quote Originally Posted by watson View Post
    G'day les88,
    Nope that's not gonna work.....sorry.
    The stills they sell are pot stills and at best put out 80%.
    The other deals are reflux stills for a lot more money, and their maximum output is 95%,
    'cos unless you buggarise around with it....that's how ethanol exists.........purify it to 100%, and 10 minutes later its back at 95%. There's a scientific word for it which slips my mind at the moment.
    Industrial meths is a different story.......what is added to the ethanol to make industrial methanol is not a water absorber.....(gotta remember that scientific word).
    There's my $57:47 cents worth.

    Stand by for incoming!!!!!

    Hygroscopic is the word your after. Where is a chemical engineer or brake mechanic when you need one

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