painting stained pine WITHOUT sanding

**havabeer69** · 22nd July 2022, 06:36 PM

hi everyone,

I'm looking at some furniture on facebook/gumtree etc and we need a couple of new book shelfs and it seems a waste to get IKEA stuff where there is plenty of solid 2nd hand stuff out there.

my issue comes from the colour. Most of the furniture being sold is the pine, but stained in that "orangish" baltic pine colour which doesn't suit the look we're after.

I've recently acquired a paint sprayer and wondering if there isn't a magic undercoat that will stick to what I'm going to assume are oil based varnish/stains so that I can just paint them a basic flat white. I'm just trying to avoid hours of sanding for what is going to be a kids book case in the 2nd living area. So hoping to just spray it.

something like this for $40 + paint would work out fine as the sprayer would make like work of painting it:

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**auscab** · 22nd July 2022, 07:51 PM

Id just give it a sand with some worn 120 or 180 grit with some sugar soap . Or a bucket of hot water and washing powder thrown in . Then give it a go over with some 0000 steel wool to make sure its got no shine left any where. A flat acrylic white should stick to that .

**rwbuild** · 22nd July 2022, 09:09 PM

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**Tonyz** · 23rd July 2022, 07:43 PM

came onto forum to ask exact same question..... following

**BobL** · 23rd July 2022, 07:52 PM

What Auscab said.

I did this for my sons pine cot.
Originally made and painted in clear PU in 1983 when my son was born.
By 2016 it had been used by 6 kiddies and was looking a bit yellow and tired.
I ran a ROS with 180G over the flats and hand sanded the rungs.
Acrylic over that.

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We did the same with our 26 year old pine colonial bathroom vanity cupboard.

**Tij** · 23rd July 2022, 11:15 PM

I’ve used Zinsser Bulls Eye 1-2-3 over just about anything. No sanding needed. The recommendations on page 7 are OK:
https://www.rustoleum.com/-/media/Di..._Brochure.ashx

**Tij** · 23rd July 2022, 11:31 PM

It probably depends on whether you have an orbital sander. Or any other use for the Zinsser after the bookshelf!

**havabeer69** · 24th July 2022, 07:39 PM

I have a sander, just dont want to commit the time to sanding.

If i find the right piece of furniture i may give the zissner a go.

**Tonyz** · 24th July 2022, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by havabeer69

I have a sander, just dont want to commit the time to sanding.

If i find the right piece of furniture i may give the zissner a go.

quick trip to Salvos or Vinnies you could pick up something cheap n nasty, even ask out the back of their shops they usually have a 'repair' guy doing something.
Ive picked up odd timber dining chairs that way.

**auscab** · 24th July 2022, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by havabeer69

I have a sander, just dont want to commit the time to sanding.

If i find the right piece of furniture i may give the zissner a go.

Its not a job that requires sanding through the original finish . Its very quick . You don't even need an orbital sander. Your just creating a dull fresh surface on the piece for your paint to stick to. You should still do the same if you use a primer or your primer could flake off with your paint job that's on top of that.

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