Thread: Can't quite get the finish right!

White Oil????

I keep some in the Garden Shed...

I assume you are talking about a different white oil?

Chris

White oil or paraffin oil is not a finishing oil. Doesn't matter what you do with it you won't get a good finish, all it will do is darken the timber and leave it dull. Will also make the wax go dull as it won't allow the wax to dry properly so it is taken back off in the rag when you buff it up.

Cheers - Neil

Sorry,my mistake.Its not white oil.
Its an Australian product called White Polish made by Snake Gully.
I was told at the paint shop it was good for sealing and adding a lustre to the timber without unduly colouring it.

Hi Eurostat,
Lustre is different to high sheen which is what you are after. I am not familiar with the product you are using.
I use oils a lot, the tung/resin/urethane ones. With fastidious sanding I then wipe on the oil with many applications, like french polishing.

I have achieved stunning results..mirror finish.

I played with wax over danish oil once on NGR and was not happy with the result. Haven't used wax since because I am getting results without it. Don't use dansih oil anymore either. Others on the forum swear by wax.

Welcome to the learning curve. I am using my finishing technique at the moment, you are welcome to come over and see.

cheers,
conwood

Hi Conwood,"mirror finish" sounds good.
Do you think i have compromised my timbers ability to apply the same materials and get a result similiar to yours?
Could you please tell me what brand of oil you use and where you get it from?
What suburb are you in?

White polish is bleached (white) shellac. It is probably that old that it's not working the way it should. It has a shelf life of around 12 - 18 mths and could have been around for a lot longer than that in the shop.

When buying any premixed shellac products look for a use by date or a manufactured date. What you have should give a brilliant shine if fresh, but really needs a bit of expertise or knowledge to use it.

Thanks for that info ubeaut,is it too late?What can i still do to get that shine i'm after?
Should i sand back again and buy some of the tung oil conwood talks about?

Hi Eurostat,
I am using Feast 7 Watson Floorseal -tung oil and resin. Was using Haymes tung oil but cannot get in one litre any more. F&W is available everywhere.

You could probably get similar result with your danish. Might (you will if you have used wax) have to resand and then hand wipe (or brush) many fine coats, 5-10.

Not sure what you mean by compromise timbers, but I would say no.

I am in Newmarket and you are welcome.
cheers,
conwood 0411596776

Well there's my first lesson in finishing,learnt the hard way.
I sanded back the whole thing, then applied Tung Oil.
Now my timber has gone from a lovely light honey colour to something akin to burnt brown, after just one coat.
I should have left well enough alone.
Oh well, live and learn.

Hi Eurostat. You can take off the white polish easily enough with methylated spirits. Rosewood is oily and can lead to adhesion problems with many finishes but shellac will cope beautifully, so I would persist with it. Why don't you make some fresh polish up using Ubeaut flakes and soft rubber it on?

All the best.

Sorry I missed your last post, so my reply was unnecessary. Problem solved. Well done.

No Andrewsd,your reply was good.
I feel like i'm in a bit of a bind now.The tung oil really darkened up the timber,something i didnt want to do.
I've sanded it back, yet again, but unfortunately the oil did what oils are supposed to do,and penetrated the timber permanently, darkening it.
I don't want to risk adding more oil for fear of darkening even more,but of course i'm left without any gloss on the timber at all.What i want to do is just add shine without colouring.Will your suggestion do this?Thanks

Why not finish it with a wipe on poly. I know you said you didn't want to use this type of finish but if you are happy with the colour of your timber now you have sanded it back,You will achieve a shiny finish easily with WOP. You might have to apply a couple of coats with light sanding between coats but if its shine you want, this is one way to get it.
Personally I have never achieved a real high gloss shine using oils but have achieved a nice sheen or lustre using tung oil and then waxing. The tung oil does change the colour of timber (I prefer to say it brings out the texture and colour of the timber) so its an idea to do a test piece to see if you like the finished result.

Hello Munruben,is it necessary to thin out the poly before applying it,or is straight out of the can alright.I would be trying to avoid application streaking.
I did a test piece originally when i was trying to decide which way to go and i found the finish to be streaky.Of course i know its all in the way its applied,but if it will be streaky for anyone, it will be streaky for me.
By the way,is there any way you know of to try and strip some of the oil stain back out of the timber?