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  1. #1
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    Default Need advice on stripping paint! PLEASE HELP!

    Hey guys, this is my first post in this forum, and my first woodwork project so please go easy on me!!

    Ok so here's the deal:

    I have recently come into an old drum that i'm going to need to do a lot of work on. But firstly, to try and make it easier to explain, i'll explain some of the "drum anatomy"

    This particular drum is made of up of three plies of wood glued together. The outtermost ply is mahogany, the middle ply is poplar, and the innermost ply is maple.

    So in the early days, this particular drum company said "wow...that interior ply of maple looks SO good...we should just put a clear finish (a "secret formula" as it were) on it and leave it a la natural" (the first picture is an example of what it looks like)

    But unfortunately, the chap who i'm buying this drum off decided one day to paint the inside of the drum white (i.e. he painted over that beautiful natural maple with the "secret formula" finish). DOH! (the second picture depicts this)

    MY plan is to remove the white paint, which i'm going to do with paint stripper (designed for wood, of course), which will unfortunately also remove the finish on the interior maple ply, and start over again.

    BUT i'm very worried! I'm terrified that when i add the paint stripper, the paint will bubble and come off (yay) but then the paint stripper will ALSO penetrate the wood and stain/discolour/change it in some way if it is not removed quickly enough.

    So how do I know exactly when the paint is ready to be stripped off with a plastic putty knife, and how do i remove the remnants of the residue of the paint stripper that will still be on the maple afterwards? i've been trying to find this answer for AGES, and the only suggestions i can find are "just turn on the hose and wash it off or use methylated spirits" - but soaking a drum with water or washing it with methylated spirits DEFINITELY does not sound right to me - From my experience drums are actually prone to "water damage" if water is applied to them.

    I'm dead set on removing the paint though, so any advice would be greatly appreciated! And sorry for the long post!

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    Your not getting much help there dude, are you !
    I checked your other posts as well .
    That looks like a real pain of a strip job, the way to want to do it I mean, take off one layer , leave the original, get around all that metal, and its in a cylinder.

    I would think the fast way is strip the lot [ inside ] and hose as well, but if your prepared to spend a long time and get a good job your going to have to play with a little at a time and experiment.

    Try a little warm water on a rag and rub with a finger hard on a spot and see if it moves, it probably wont .
    It looks like it would be an acrylic white, it should move with metho on a rag with finger, see if you can rub off and leave your original finish.

    If it does come off well like that, you could try the old , linseed oil 20% turps 60 % metho 20% mix, it works well taking off later polish colour jobs that are on top of original french polish jobs, shake it and try on a spot with fine steel wool. If you see your original finish looking good buff it dry with a rag

    Some suggest using pure turps with the mix, and I have read that acetic acid which is in vinegar can be mixed with it

    If the original finish was a dry or porus coat it may not work well at all

    good luck with it and let me know how it goes.

    cheers Rob

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    I used to work for Haymes Paints back in the 80s/90s
    Have a look at this product
    Haymes Paint: Unistrip
    With stripping paint from a timber substrate, I'd steer clear of the water cleanup
    Gently remove as much stripper affected paint with a scraper that wont be affected by the stripper, then clean up with metho, replacing the rag or whatever you're using, several times so that you're thoroughly removing any stripper residue out of the pores of the timber
    This will help ensure any new coating will adhere to the timber
    Hope this is of help
    Dave

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    A plastic putty knife or body filler smoother works well when getting the stripped finish off.
    You are going to remove the hardware first aren't you?

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    Default Strippin'. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-9F_HWel5g

    There's some valuable advice from auscab. Well done & seconded. Likewise all metal removal.
    I'd recommend if your in any doubt about your ability to do this take it to someone who has the expertise, perhaps someone in here who you could oversee or at least see examples of their work? The manufacturer may also shed some light. They look like vintage Ludwig and are perhaps a mixed set? 1961 -'68 these were normally made up of mahog. pop. mahog. yadda yadda. More here: Ludwig Timeline
    That said: we've used Callington Haven for well over 30 years now with excellent results. Mostly on veneered pianos & the odd stick or two but never on the guts of a drum.
    ......................
    Personally, would not advise an amatuer to go anywhere near it. Reminds me of the twit who dipped (caustic bath) a very collectable 'sly' red cedar chest of drawers.
    Then there's this unique legend within the muso trade about drummers & elec. bass players .... and may I say it's all true speaking from personal experience of course.

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