Thread: Andrews Projects (bass + guitar/s)

Originally Posted by dadovfor

There's a Strathfield Men's Shed advertised on the forum!!

http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...467#post916467

I don't see any real disagreement here regarding CNC. This forum is primarily amateur builders doing one-offs for themselves and friends, and we all have a limited range of tools (I assume). Each build thread, including this one, is a shared journey of the creative process and the ways in which we each accomplish our builds with the abilities, knowledge, and tools available to us.

One-offs on a CNC ... not sure. But if you were going professional, why wouldn't you use a machine to execute some elements of your design just to make things more efficient?

But I'm getting way too philosophical here ... perhaps I need to go to church with Andy B

ooooo a mens shed
hmm i might enquire about that....
wonder if they have a bandsaw

Originally Posted by floody_85

hahaha!!! church buddies!!

shush you

Originally Posted by peterbrown

I would give any builder that uses CNC full credit for the build. I get my templates laser cut, however I sit behind a computer and move the mouse by hand, type commands by hand. CNC functions only with the assistance of a COMPUTER, and a computer needs to be programed by SOMEBODY. And programing is can only be done BY HAND. It doen't matter the tool, there are always hands at work that deserve credit for the work.

Andrew, I give you credit for ripping a 200mm wide board BYHAND. That deserves credit!

Cheers,

Peter

oh crap now iv started something lol....

i never meant that cnc isnt a good method or anything.....
i was just saying i prefer things that are dubbed handmade to really be handmade

thanks for the credit....
by the last 8 or 10 cuts i was seriously kneeling on the floor pushing the saw with my chest i was that tired lol

Originally Posted by floody_85

hahaha!!! church buddies!!

Originally Posted by ficfac

LOL!!!
great contribution to the thread ficfac

an update....

i gave blackburn wire a call and asked what time they close (keeping in mind it was sunday)
they said 3....
drove out there and pulled up out the front at 2:30....
place was closed
so i gotta go on friday...

i spent the better part of the day at bunnings....
i got me a few rolls of sandpaper some wingnuts some bolts and some mdf....
almost 90 bux

so tomorrow (well today lol... its 2:30am)
i will be making my templates...

i will be making one for the body, now... im not sure if i should make the edges sharp and run them over the router table like that...
or make them rounded and run them over the table like that?

maybe some of the more experienced blokes can help me out here....
im just trying to avoid the chance of the router chipping the sharp cornes off....
especially the ones near the waist of the body...

i will also most likely make a neck/fingerboard template,
and i cant make a headstock template because i havnt come up with a design lol....

oh yea... need to make a template for this bass pup i have too.....

and hopefully i will be recieving a package tomorrow with a few things in it....

[quote=Andrew_B;917424]i gave blackburn wire a call and asked what time they close (keeping in mind it was sunday)
they said 3....
drove out there and pulled up out the front at 2:30....
place was closed [quote]

You've gotta hate that!! I went to an electrical wholesaler on Saturday ... same deal. I'll see if I can get away from work at a decent time this arvo and try again.

[quote=Andrew_B;917424]
i will be making one for the body, now... im not sure if i should make the edges sharp and run them over the router table like that...
or make them rounded and run them over the table like that?

im just trying to avoid the chance of the router chipping the sharp cornes off....
especially the ones near the waist of the body...
[quote]

Huh? Not sure I'm following you?

I'd cut the body shape with the templates and get that precise ... sides sanded, smooth lines etc. Then I'd use a round over bit with a bearing on it ... hence the need for a precise, smooth line on the body.

There's a big Billy Hyde music store opening soon across the road from our local Bunnings. I'm looking forward to seeing what they stock. I can get inspiration and parts on one side of the road, and tools on the other ... and sustenance from the Maccas on the corner

Originally Posted by dadovfor

Huh? Not sure I'm following you?

I'd cut the body shape with the templates and get that precise ... sides sanded, smooth lines etc. Then I'd use a round over bit with a bearing on it ... hence the need for a precise, smooth line on the body.

There's a big Billy Hyde music store opening soon across the road from our local Bunnings. I'm looking forward to seeing what they stock. I can get inspiration and parts on one side of the road, and tools on the other ... and sustenance from the Maccas on the corner

lol i thought that may confuse you

i was just trying to say,
should i put sharp points on my template,
or round the points,
because im not sure if having the points sharp will cause them to snap off when i rout around the template.

im just cutting the template out now.

i took the body out of the clamps earlier....
looks damn good

lol i attempted to wipe it over and take a shot of the grain... but by the time i took the picture it had dried up

Originally Posted by Andrew_B

lol i thought that may confuse you
i was just trying to say,
should i put sharp points on my template,
or round the points,
because im not sure if having the points sharp will cause them to snap off when i rout around the template.

Ahhhhh ... I'm awake now. If you look at the pictures of my Batocaster build in ChPLAT's B C Rich thread, we faced the same question. In the end I went with a small round over on the tips, not a true point. But the look is still pointy and dangerous.

Even with that small rounding there was still the risk of tear out from the router, but take it slowly and youll be fine ... or mark up and hand bevel the first couple of centimetres of the tips and then route to meet them.

I think the "idea" of sharp tips is better than the finished product. Curves are safer. If you're mate gets too carried away while he's playing and those horns are too sharp he could damage important parts of himself

Originally Posted by dadovfor

Curves are safer. If you're mate gets too carried away while he's playing and those horns are too sharp he could damage important parts of himself

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i think it will be fine....

if the points pose a problem when im done routing the body, i had the idea to round over the backs of them....

hmmm i now know why iv never used templates....
they are proving to be time consuming lol

hmmm damn postman hasnt brought my package!

Originally Posted by Andrew_B

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if the points pose a problem when im done routing the body, i had the idea to round over the backs of them....

That could work quite well ... an interesting look.

Originally Posted by Andrew_B

hmmm damn postman hasnt brought my package!

What have you got coming?

the package came.... not impressed... 4:30....
lol

its just some bits and pieces... some inla material for the bass a truss rod for mmy acoustic project...a t-o-m.. la la la la



template is made
well i made two.... one pointy and one rounded....
im gonna go with the rounded....

making a small mallet, cause i like making tools...

not much else i dont think...

will get back into it tomorrow

well its tomorrow

and i have finished routing the body



looks good! imo... lol

pics?

ok pics









back needs sanding...


heres my fret wire holder lol



maple offcuts come in handy

hmmm next is the neck.....

i need to make a template

looking good man. thats such a cool shape. How long is your router bit? i went through all the bits we have at work and none of them would be long enough for guitar. the wood is 45mm and the template will be about 10

lool i had the router bit problem too....

my bit is approx 6cm long, blade is about 3cm/shaft is 3cm i think.

my original plan was to use my flush trim? bit and the flip the guitar over and use my bit with a top mounted bearing....

but i just took the template off when i got to full depth, and routede using the body as its own template

(if that makes sense)...

i was using my router table though....
if i was holding the router i would have been able to do it without removing the template....

i feel that a fretwire holder is a bit silly. i put all the fretwires into a narrow cylinder, and most importantly i start from the last fret. it means that the wires need to get smaller, so there is no chance of grabbing a longer one early and not having the long one later when you need it.

Thats the dumbest design ive ever seen!!!, I mean who ever thought that shape was worthy of the effort of cutting, needs their head read!!!! LMAO.
Only kidding, awesome job dude and it will only get better the more you do. Back looks a little skanky but its not finnished yet, and might even add to the "metal" look.
But i still think the fret holder is stoopid :P
Black_labb is right about starting with the longest frets first, cause if you cut one too short, you can still use it at the shorter end of the scale.
Again, great stuff and keep up with the pics. I wanna see what this one ends up as.