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Thread: First build! - The story so far
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17th June 2009, 08:26 PM #1Member
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First build! - The story so far
G'day. I've recently found myself with some time on my hands so I decided to get started (finally!) on my first build.
The thing that most intimidates me about building a guitar from scratch is the fretwork and getting the setup just right.... so I decided to build a lapsteel! My thinking is that it gives me a chance to learn a lot of the skills for the next project so that all I'll have to worry about next time is getting the fretwork right! Plus I get to learn to play lapsteel...
So, some details:
- Lapsteel style (think electric weissenborn)
- Chambered sapele neck/body w/binding
- Flame maple top with f-holes
- Rosewood fingerboard
- Vintage Grover tuners
- Humbuckers (brand to be decided but probably cheap Wilkinson's intially due to budgetary constraints)
- Single tone, single volume adjustment with 3-way switch
- ...and still trying to come up with the detailed design for the MOP inlay in headstock and fretboard.
The progress so far:
The humble workshop
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/w.../June09237.jpg
The jig idea I got from Old Pickers build thread to dress the roughsawn Sapele
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/w.../June09211.jpg
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/w.../June09214.jpg
Tight budget = $19 jigsaw from Bunnings
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/w.../June09224.jpg
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/w.../June09218.jpg
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/w.../June09228.jpg
Rebating to allow for the drop top
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/w.../June09229.jpg
Shaping the headstock
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/w.../June09240.jpg
Routed the body cavities (the toughest job so far with my limited router experience!)
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/w.../June09250.jpg
But it's starting to look like an instrument!
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/w.../June09248.jpg
Sorry for the long thread. Now you're up to speed I will add gradually as she takes shape.
Cheers,
Shane
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17th June 2009, 08:54 PM #2
Shane, This is looking great.
Good to see another person taking the plunge into luthiere. I may warn you, that before you've finished this one you will be planing your next.
And don't stress about fretwork, i suppose its just the same as taking your first steps into building guitars. I remember when i started on my first axe I found this quote "a beginner makes a few mistakes, a pro has made them all". Despite being moderately unplayable it was the experience that kept me going. But, from those pictures i can assure you this is gunna be a beaut.
Once again, great work and top efforts.
And i will defiantly be following this thread
Cheers,Deano
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18th June 2009, 08:11 AM #3
Hi Yoz,
Good onya for having a go! Its looking really nice.
...and still trying to come up with the detailed design for the MOP inlay in headstock and fretboard."We must never become callous. When we experience the conflicts ever more deeply we are living in truth. The quiet conscience is an invention of the devil." - Albert Schweizer
My blog. http://theupanddownblog.blogspot.com
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18th June 2009, 08:25 AM #4
Yup, you and just about everyone else.
It's nice when you start getting people telling you what they want, you just have to think the "how" not the "what" too.
Neat looking design.
May I ask where you sourced your sapele from?
The thing with fretwork is, even a computer controlled mill with tiney tolerances will still produce an instrument that is imperfect. Its intrinsic in the instrument design. Cheack out www.earvana.com for some interesting explanations on that particular subject.
Keep up the great work!
P.S. dont let the missus see you posting pic's of the washingCheers!Mongrel
Some inspirational words:
"Talent is cheaper than table salt. What separates the talented individual from the successful one is a lot of hard work." -Stephen King.
Besides being a guitar player, I'm a big fan of the guitar. I love that damn instrument. -Steve Vai"Save me Jeebus!" -Homer Simpson
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18th June 2009, 10:52 AM #5Member
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Thanks guys!
Mongrel, I'm in Christchurch and managed to source the Sapele from a mob called BBS timbers. Wow! Did they have a nice warehouse full of exotic timbers!!! And cheap too (well, a darn sight cheaper than the other quotes I got from suppliers in the area).
My next problem is finding a good woodworks supplies store in this part of the world. I'm an Aussie who only moved here at the end of last year and have been struggling to find a good local supplier of tools, finishes etc, outside of the usual suspects (Bunnings, Mitre 10...). So if anyone knows where the locals go.....
And as for the washing.... a small house and a 3 year old daughter means there's always going to be ##### everywhere in the photos! Even the washing. Next time I'll try to capture the snow covered southern alps in the background of my pics.
Cheers,
Shane
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18th June 2009, 12:19 PM #6
I have bought parts from www.guitarparts.co.nz and they have been great (our dollar is better than yours ner nernernenrnenrenrn)
PS wait till your "lil mongrel" starts making guitars, like mineCheers!Mongrel
Some inspirational words:
"Talent is cheaper than table salt. What separates the talented individual from the successful one is a lot of hard work." -Stephen King.
Besides being a guitar player, I'm a big fan of the guitar. I love that damn instrument. -Steve Vai"Save me Jeebus!" -Homer Simpson
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18th June 2009, 07:49 PM #7Member
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The kiwi peso has been breaking my heart ever since we moved over here! You should do the calcs on buying from Stewmac using $NZ... It's pretty scary!
Now on to today's (and yesterday's) efforts.
Had glued the bookmatched maple together previously.
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/w.../June09238.jpg
Glued some maple onto the headstock and trimmed to fit.
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/w...e-18609011.jpg
Then cut the drop top, and cut the f-holes using the dremel.
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/w...e-18609001.jpg
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/w...e-18609005.jpg
And just now glued the top onto the body.
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/w...e-18609012.jpg
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/w...e-18609010.jpg
Also cut the control cavity opening today and prepared a sapele cover to match, but forgot to take pictures so will upload them tomorrow.
One of the challenges here in Christchurch right now is that the maximum daytime temp is only around 6 degrees (and I have no insulation or heating in the garage!). So I'm doing all my glueing at the end of the day and letting it cure inside overnight (-2 outside tonight). It's going to get interesting when it comes time for finishing
Cheers,
Shane
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18th June 2009, 08:07 PM #8Retired
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Hi Yoz, Great first build, And good to hear about the weather over there in New Zealand.
Makes me feel like I am living in a heat wave down here in Tasmania.
Cheers Bob
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18th June 2009, 08:22 PM #9One of the challenges here in Christchurch right now is that the maximum daytime temp is only around 6 degrees (and I have no insulation or heating in the garage!). So I'm doing all my glueing at the end of the day and letting it cure inside overnight (-2 outside tonight). It's going to get interesting when it comes time for finishing
Great progress, and a lovely maple top to match.Deano
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18th June 2009, 08:36 PM #10
I had similar problems with water based finishes, so I put the lacquer tin in a pot of hot water and had two large halogen lights keeping the ambient air temperature up towards 20degC and bought it inside of a night. Doing it this way I got 4-5 coats on a <10degC days
There are definite advantages to looking into 2 pac poly coatsCheers!Mongrel
Some inspirational words:
"Talent is cheaper than table salt. What separates the talented individual from the successful one is a lot of hard work." -Stephen King.
Besides being a guitar player, I'm a big fan of the guitar. I love that damn instrument. -Steve Vai"Save me Jeebus!" -Homer Simpson
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19th June 2009, 11:28 AM #11
I'll echo everyone's entiments with this one and say all is looking great there, Shane.
Keep the pix flowing, mate.
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21st June 2009, 01:02 AM #12Whatever note you blow youre never more than a semitone away from the correct one....(Miles Davis)
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21st June 2009, 08:33 AM #13Member
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Hi Kiwigeo, I'm on the banks of the Heathcote in Somerfield. When it rains for a few days, the back yard fills with water (from fence to fence!!) and it takes days for it to drain away into the ground. I should probably be building kayaks, not guitars!
Cheers,
Yoz
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21st June 2009, 08:43 AM #14Member
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So things have slowed a little this weekend. Partly due to family commitments on the weekend but moslty due to the dremel kicking the bucket!!! And I was due to cut the binding channels next too. The Dremel repair agent won't have it back to me until Wednesday so I'm picking away at smaller tasks in the meanwhile...
The good news is the goody bag arrived from Stewmac on Friday! So I've trimmed my rosewood fingerboard to fit the neck and installed .02" white plastic binding for frets. I had to sand it a little to fit but it has come up better than I had expected! Will post a pic later today.
Question - A couple of you suggest sealing before gluing bindings to prevent staining the wood with the glue. Can I seal the whole instrument with a coat of shellac before I cut the binding channels or glue the fingerboard on? Will the glue (Titebond or expoy?) work fine over a coat of shellac?
Now that I have all my electrics I will also drill the holes for the knobs, switch and tuners today.
Cheers,
Yoz
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21st June 2009, 09:21 AM #15Member
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Pics of the trimmed fingerboard with frets in:
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/w...e-21609002.jpg
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/w...e-21609003.jpg
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/w...e-21609004.jpg
Cheers,
Yoz
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