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3rd September 2009, 02:16 PM #1Senior Member
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Cheap Pickup Winders - Alternatives to StewMac Winder
G'day all,
I've seen a few people ask about pickup winding machines lately - I was going to buy the stewmac winder ( approx $475 aussie PLUS shipping ) until I started looking around on Ebay - Lots of different winders available with counters - just use the keywords "coil winding machine" ..
Anyway, I picked up this winder for under $200 Australian landed - Shipped on Tuesday from China and DHL delivered it this morning.. Amazingly quick delivery.. Quality seems very good - weighs about 3 1/2 kgs.
I just tested it out, its very cool. Variable speed with a foot control and digital counter. I need to set it up with a feeder for the wire and a jig to hold to pickup and then I'm all set..
Cheers
Fletch
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3rd September 2009, 04:11 PM #2
Hi Fletch,
Good for you, I've been looking at those for a while and some of the guys on the pick up maker's forum have also recommended them, one of whom even tells how he modified it to cater for bobbins.
"http://music-electronics-forum.com/f11/"
Hey I hope you got the 240 volt one and no the 110 volt . And I'm glad you didn't purchase a Schatten winder because they are a complete piece of , gee how can I put it delicately ???? cr@p for the price.
"http://music-electronics-forum.com/t14394-post113668/#poststop"
Have fun with it Fletch
regards
Wal
Editor's Note: Sorry Wal - removed the cross forum links, they sometimes cause us a little grief.<style type="text/css">p { margin-bottom: 0.25cm; line- 120%; }</style> Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. Abert_Einstein.
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3rd September 2009, 04:24 PM #3Senior Member
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Wal, thanks for the links. Ive been looking for a pickup makers forum for a while to read up.
I must confess, I did place an order with Stewmac for the rest of the stuff I need ( or probably don't need..) - Magnets, polarity tester, some single coil and humbucker "kits"... Wire I got from Ebay.
I reckon next week I should be able to give it a spin and see how it goes
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3rd September 2009, 05:09 PM #4
Hey Fletch I was just trying to find the link that showed the mods to that winder but no luck as yet.
Basically what this bloke did was changed the pulley's on the motor and shaft to a higher ratio cuz 4000 rpm is way too fast, and it gave him far better speed control on the foot pedal. then he screwed a largish aluminium disc to the end of it and just used double sided tape to hold the bobbin on.
regards to all,
Wal<style type="text/css">p { margin-bottom: 0.25cm; line- 120%; }</style> Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. Abert_Einstein.
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3rd September 2009, 08:30 PM #5Senior Member
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4th September 2009, 11:26 PM #6
Is the spec correct on the listing? It states the winding speed as "around 800 - 4000 turns", I assume he means RPM and min/max speeds. If that's correct, then you'd want to slow down to zero or very close to it. The machine we made ranges from 0 - 1200 RPM.
The Schatten winder is a definite rip off, the internals look like a toy speed boat. We made a machine from scrap parts except for a $30 kit counter that I wired up, simple, powerful, reverse wind capability, lighting etc.
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4th September 2009, 11:46 PM #7
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5th September 2009, 12:51 PM #8Member
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Hi people! walcen got my attention on the pickup makers forum....
I've fitted an 80mm pulley to my winder which has brought the minimum speed down to something more acceptable. Ideally it needs to go slower but the footswitch socket will have to move to fit a bigger pulley than the 80mm one. I'll get the step drill out and do that some time soon.
The approach I take with winding on this thing is to guide the wire with my right hand while applying slight pressure to the pulley with my left for speed control. I press a folded piece of paper towel on it as a brake. Initially I used the 'brake' on the acrylic disc bobbin holder I had made so it wasn't an awkward position but since then I've cut slots in the disc all the way to the outside (should have thought about it more first). The slots allow me to bolt bobbins on any length to the disc with the bolts running through the polepiece. I'll be making a new disc and pulley for it asap, possibly with a screw adjustable brake just in case. I like the control that it gives.
The microcontroller used for the speed control etc. is an Atmel unit and theoretically reprogrammable, but that's something I don't know much about. If I knew someone who was into that stuff I'd be happy to let them check out the code and make changes. I had thought about fitting a resistor to drop the voltage to the motor but got a bit concerned about damaging the controller.
I'd like to go to a fully CNC controlled winder with a nice tensioner at some point so I think I'm happy to keep things simple with this one until then.
Big hello to Andrew B and MKat too!
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5th September 2009, 02:30 PM #9
Hey Brisbane, Welcome to the forum, give us a name to call ya.
Start a thread and show us some pics of your gear, we love pics .<style type="text/css">p { margin-bottom: 0.25cm; line- 120%; }</style> Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. Abert_Einstein.
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5th September 2009, 03:40 PM #10Member
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I'm Dan. What kind of pics are you wanting to see? My workshop currently looks like a cyclone went through it so I'd rather not show it :lol: Pics of my work here - http://www.myspace.com/oniguitars
I recognise Andrew from sevenstring.org and mkat from the pickup makers forum, possibly elsewhere too?
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5th September 2009, 04:48 PM #11
username looka familliar...
is that Dan Oni?
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5th September 2009, 05:06 PM #12Member
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that be me
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5th September 2009, 06:49 PM #13
WELCOME TO THE FORUM!!!!!!!
one of my favorite builders!!!!!!!!!
i showed the boys on here, my fav build of yours *drools*
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5th September 2009, 06:52 PM #14
Good to make tour acquaintance Dan, those axes are sweet so when can Andrew_B come and pick one up or do you deliver.
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5th September 2009, 07:05 PM #15
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