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    Thank you Damian, what a wonderful comment, and to all the readers out there, I found Damian a great person to deal with.
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    Glad to hear things reached a happy ending.

    I've been doing a bit of reading up on flamencos and there are some interesting discussions on what actually defines a flamenco instrument. Many well known luthiers who make both flamenco and classicals maintain that they basically make classicals and adjust set up to suit flamenco players. One maker joked that he sold classicals to flamenco players and charged them $2000 extra for lowering the action and adding a golpeador.

    Food for thought and debate

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    Martin, I have heard Australian luthiers make these funny comments, and I have concluded, that most have never seen one let alone touched or held one. They have a lot of differences to classical guitars and their mellow sounds. Flamenco guitars are made to be loud and fiery as they have to get over a whole lot of heels slamming into floors, as well as clapping and castinets. Strangely enough, the body of a Flameco guitar is smaller than that of a classical guitar.

    Ole'.
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    Um the comments were made by a panel of well known American Luthiers at the 2006 GAL conference....Richard Brune, Eugene Clark and John Park with Jeffery Elliott moderating. Elliott opens the discussion by stating that all the panelists are accomplished flamenco makers as well as flamenco players.

    Read the article (it's in the latest copy of American Lutherie) and then see what you think.

    As an interesting aside.....I trained in classical guitar for many years but my main instrument through the years was a K Yairi "flamenco" guitar made from Japanese Cypress and with violin tuning pegs. The body is slightly shallower than the classicals I build but it doesnt really have what could be described as a flamenco sound. Of course if I lowered the action and played it using a flamenco players right hand technique I have no doubt it would "sound like a flamenco".

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    Buzza, I see youre in Adelaide. If you like, PM me your postal address and Ill post you a photocopy of the American Lutherie article.

    Cheers Martin
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    As I said Martin, the funny comments I heard were from the horses mouths, and luthiers of Adelaide, not the USA. They shall remain nameless here though. These guitars are more of a "tenor" in the sound range, and classical guitars are way too mellow to achieve the same effect. I learned the Flamenco techniques back n the 1960's, but these days, the jelly in my knuckles has lost its elasticity, and I can no longer get the techniques going. I still listen to the Gypsy Kings, and Manita De Plata of course, and enjoy a glass of red with some crusty bread and olives at hand.

    We do have have some fine luthiers in Adelaide, and when I win the lottery, I will go to see if they have a flat-top to suit me for some back porch bluegrass picking.
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    Yes alot of good builders here in Adelaide. A few weeks back I was watching a busker playing a really nice parlour guitar made by Tim Wright out at Mount Barker

    re flat tops...my first build was an OM flat top....unfortunately the person I lent it to doesn't want to give it back. Same thing has happened to all subsequent builds.
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    I am sure you could argue all day about this, but my 2c: there are plenty of famous people who aren't that great at what they do, there are plenty of people with opinions, but fewer opinions that are worth listening to.

    If I was buying or building a flamenco guitar I would be looking for a certain sound, and a classical with a lower action wouldn't necessarily deliver. On the other hand I don't claim to be an expert.

    Update on the guitar. I have a selection of mari strings and I fitted some low tension flamenco ones to it. No going flat just yet, although I did give the pegs a sand. Interesting sound. The strings havevn't settled yet, but so far a fun guitarto play. I think I'm realiseing why low tension strings have not enjoyed widespread use. Nice and soft to fret but the sound lacks something. I am convinced it's the strings not the guitar.

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    I have to say that Admira is not a flamenco guitar. You should watch some pages as https://laguitarraflamenca.net before to buy any spanish guitar. I have been playing for 7 years and in the first year I did the same mistake that you just did hahaha don't worry. But really, you should watch some of these experts pages

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    The previous post was 4 years before you began playing. Pays to check the date, or people will think you are just trying to drive traffic to your website.

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    Oops, inadvertently hit the ‘thanks for picture’ button. Fat fingers etc....

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