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    Default Floyd rose Bridges....

    Anyone used, or know anything about these beasties?
    http://store.guitarfetish.com/flroflotrsy.html
    I am designing MY guitar now and I need a floyd type double locking trem. as much as I would like to pay for a GENUINE, I think my budget will only stretch to a licenced.
    Are these ridiculously priced trems just too good to be true? and the speed loader part? After 20 odd years snipping the ball ends off strings and swearing at the block locks I think the idea of a speed loader system is awesome!

    I am going to pick up a couple of their hot rail pups and such so it will be worth getting one to try, but some input would be much appreciated.

    It wasn't until I played Lil's guitar (and it sounds SOOOOO much better than my poor old axe) that I realised how much I use the trem, I am constantly sweeping down for the non-existent bar

    So a $283.37 AUD floyd from stewmac
    or a $59.95 from guitar fetish????


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    "Save me Jeebus!" -Homer Simpson

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    When it comes to floyds, there's no good reason to buy cheap because it'll only bite you in the bum with tuning stability issues .

    I get my OFR's from Warmoth. Way less than Stew-mac and there's also the
    lefty or Schaller option too.

    http://www.warmoth.com/hardware/brid...floyd_original

    In regards to Guitarfetish Floyds ....................you get what you pay for.

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    Yup, sorta wot I thought....

    I still think of warmoth as necks and bodies, not hardware

    Hmmmm 7 string floyds.....(reminiscing about air guitar played to passion and warfare by Vai)

    Those are a much better price to my mind, not so cheap as to set off warning bells, but still not stupidly over priced.

    Thanks stu
    Cheers!
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    Besides being a guitar player, I'm a big fan of the guitar. I love that damn instrument. -Steve Vai
    "Save me Jeebus!" -Homer Simpson

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    I bought a Gotoh Floyd GE1996 for my guitar build but have started it yet, so cannot comment on it. I think I paid around AU$130 for it, I don't think it's a speed loading one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkat View Post
    I bought a Gotoh Floyd GE1996 for my guitar build but have started it yet, so cannot comment on it. I think I paid around AU$130 for it, I don't think it's a speed loading one.
    The gotohs are also well made. That's great buying ,Michael
    Was that the one Guitarwoods had online for sale ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oz tradie View Post
    The gotohs are also well made. That's great buying ,Michael
    Was that the one Guitarwoods had online for sale ?
    No, I got it from ALS, they still have them around the same price.

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    There is something about a genuine floyd, but probably not enough to justify the extra money. So people like the Gotoh GE1996T? The 'net seems pretty happy with it, but people tend to play up their stuff-ups so that they don't look like an @r$e

    I want to stick some sey-dun JB's in the bridge and SH-2n in the neck, a qld maple neck, either qld maple or mahogany body 510 tuners, solid colour finish. I want a work horse, so it'll have a full compliment of pup controls (series/parallel/tap) 14th-15th fret upper horn, PRS style neck set, full floating trem, 22 jumbo frets rosewood fretboard.

    Its nearly been 2 years since I cut the end off my middle finger of my left hand with a table saw, and I am getting to be able to play again, but it's been a LONG battle. I was very lucky, it hit the bone, but instead of pulling it in it kicked it out and away from the blade.
    Best part is that I had to drive myself to hospital, bleeding like a bastard, and, of course, I get pulled up for a random. I (very happily) stuck my middle finger up at the officer and offered him a blood sample. I got a warning for driving with an injury (!!??) and eventually got myself to the hospital.
    My solution to my problem was to jam a slide on the offending finger, and try (and fail) to teach myself slide guitar. I SUCK at slide, but I am very proficient at sucking at it.

    Anyway, I am nearly back in the saddle again and I am chomping for a new axe. Now, I just gotta find the $$$
    Cheers!
    Mongrel


    Some inspirational words:
    "Talent is cheaper than table salt. What separates the talented individual from the successful one is a lot of hard work." -Stephen King.
    Besides being a guitar player, I'm a big fan of the guitar. I love that damn instrument. -Steve Vai
    "Save me Jeebus!" -Homer Simpson

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    Ooh that's a painful story to hear retold. OUCHHHHHHH !!!!!
    The other specs sound positively Jim-Dandy and hope you post those in a build thread as well. BTW what's your choice of metal, Mongrel?
    Or considering you're in the country music capital it's something other?
    I've got a spare lefty chrome OFR sitting here although I doubt that helps much.

    (BTW for me it's Maiden, Opeth, & a bit o' blues)

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    OK, on my MP3 player at the mo' is:
    Joe Satriani
    Steve Vai
    The Living End (I really get those guys!)
    Lynch Mob
    Skid Row
    Whitesnake
    Velvet Revolver
    Toby Keith (yeah, its country, but its cool)
    Gary Moore
    Steve Stevens (ex Billy Idol)
    Van Halen
    My inspirational period, as you can see is late '80's early '90's

    Hell, I'll listen to just about anything if people are really feeling their music.

    Maiden live does it for me, they have some of the best live recordings I have ever heard, closely followed by Metallica live, ol' James Hetfield would be a blast to see.

    SRV and Hendrix I can take in small doses, it's more a tone thing than anything, you know that tone that old deaf guys like (ha ha ha ha)
    Nuno Bettencourt on extreme's "pornographiti" has THE guitar tone that I have pretty much aspired to for the last 15 years or so, Bill Lawrence L500 pups pretty much straight into a Marshall JCM900 up to 11

    Yeah, any finger injuries are nightmares for anyone, but a guitarplayers life flashes in front of his or her eyes if and when they happen. I have also broken the first knuckle on the middle finger of my right hand, dislocated both thumbs (at different times thank god!) so my guitar life has done a LOT of flashing. Still and all I havent played in a band for 18 years now, so its not as devastating as it could be (still hurts thou)

    My biggest thrill at the moment is teaching Lil some of the stuff I played as a youngin'
    Were learning Midnight by Satriani, an I tell you, her build sounds SWEET with clean tapping tones.
    Cheers!
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    Some inspirational words:
    "Talent is cheaper than table salt. What separates the talented individual from the successful one is a lot of hard work." -Stephen King.
    Besides being a guitar player, I'm a big fan of the guitar. I love that damn instrument. -Steve Vai
    "Save me Jeebus!" -Homer Simpson

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    be carefull shopping at guitarfetish man!
    ray c
    dunno what's more fun, buyin' the tools or usin' em'

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    Quote Originally Posted by old_picker View Post
    be carefull shopping at guitarfetish man!
    Yeah, I hear you
    I think I'll stick with local or the big US distributors. Thou I'll wait for the dollar to fatten up a bit more again.


    Now:

    Does anyone know anything about the Buzz Feiten tuning system on loc-nuts. I have seen (on the net) several guitars (most notably the washburn N4) with it, but all I can find on the site is the shelf nut, not a lock nut.

    Also, I would like some opinions please:

    I am looking at a mahogany body with a maple neck (boring, I know, but it does sound good)
    what are peoples thoughts on a solid blackwood body?
    Tone?
    Weight?
    Workability?

    Comparable Oz wood for neck?

    I am not aiming to make an "ozzie" tonewood guitar, I have no qualms mixing timbers from different regions, I am looking for a specifically playable guitar with a specific feel and tone. The mahogany and maple guitars I have played (most notably Ibanez) have felt and sounded good, a more pleasing combo than the poplars and alders I have played. I am yet to play an all mahogany guitar that I havent liked.

    I was wondering on a qld maple neck on a blackwood body. I have heard queensland maple described as a good substitute for mahogany, both tonally and in workability, and I find that quite appealing.

    What about basswood? Anyone seen or heard of an australian substitute. Seems to be a commonly used timber in guitars that I like the look of, but haven't played, Like Vai and Satriani signature model. But that is not to say that that is their wood of choice, of course, it is just the model that they put their name against...

    Those of you that have built with blackwood and QLD maple, please give your oppinions, good, bad or indifferent.

    Thanks!
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    Some inspirational words:
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    Besides being a guitar player, I'm a big fan of the guitar. I love that damn instrument. -Steve Vai
    "Save me Jeebus!" -Homer Simpson

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    Interesting thoughts and choices( in a good way), mongrel.

    Blackwood really has a great sound to it. How to explain it..............

    O.K. In my opinion blackwood gives the most natural balanced sound
    of any Aussie timber I've tested. Ethereal and I put several different axes,
    some blackwood and some Qld maple to a non-scientific eartest to listen to the big difference
    in sound with similar build specs.
    The difference between the blackwood bodied axes and the Qld maple bodied axes were chalk and cheese with the blackwood being extremely well rounded in with more mids which tended to cut through a little better..
    The qld maple was appreciably thinner in sound and less dynamic in the mids.
    I remembered it as listening to the Qld maple axes through stereo compared to
    Blackwood through surround sound.
    Not a great explanation but what it told me was how clear and distinct the Blackwood sound was clarity-wise with a great balanced sound.
    Great bluesy tones but just as great kicking the pedal down for anything from Kyuss,
    QOTSA, Opeth or anything with a little added 'balls'.

    It made the Qld maple sound more trebly, sparkly and twangy in nature in comparison. You could get a good honk going with them. You could get a great metal
    palm-muted rhythm sound without losing definition.
    A good combo for a VH 'brown' sound.

    I like 'em both for different reasons.
    great in their own right, it just depends on where you want to go with it.

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    Thought you might wade in on this one Oz.
    Sounds like qld maple and alder are sort of similar (as far as my ear is concerned)
    Perhaps the blackwood/maple will be close to what I am after.
    That middy full sound of mahogany is what I'm after. I dont want to add any timbers to it, just like a LP custom or an SG.
    Its all about the tone, man.
    At the moment I am butchering my poor old Soloist clone to find the sweet spots on it for straps and weighting (I have wide shoulders and is makes it surprisingly difficult to play above the 17th fret)
    I guess, really when I admit to it, I am looking at a hybrid of the JS1600 and a N4. Simple, and functional, built around me.
    It'll have a 25.5 scale, 22 frets (I do like the neck pup under the harmonic)
    Rosewood fretboard, Sey-Duncs, Floyd.

    Do you think a blackwood neck would be too thick sounding witha full blackwood body?
    As much as I would like to build each of them in turn and test them individually, my $$$ dont quite stretch that far...
    Cheers!
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    Besides being a guitar player, I'm a big fan of the guitar. I love that damn instrument. -Steve Vai
    "Save me Jeebus!" -Homer Simpson

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    Blackwood body/Qld maple neck gives you a little high end back in.

    To be truthful, my fave of the lot was blackwood allover, Body and neck, with no top cap.
    Just pure blackwood all the way baby..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by oz tradie View Post
    Blackwood body/Qld maple neck gives you a little high end back in.

    To be truthful, my fave of the lot was blackwood allover, Body and neck, with no top cap.
    Just pure blackwood all the way baby..........
    I'm craving an all Blackwood build with a Mulga fretboard...

    These Gotoh made Floyd copy looks well made, i have one sitting here but I'm not too sure what i want to do with it.

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