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9th September 2013, 06:42 PM #16
Interesting Bill. I've just finished reading Electric Guitar & Bass Design by Leonardo Lospennato. Leonardo includes a quote from R.M. Mottola (independent researcher).
"It may come as a surprise to a number of musicians that there is no definitive research showing any kind of correlation between wood species or basic construction techniques used in electric guitars and particular tone coloring. My advice here is to pick materials that you like (for whatever reasons) and not to worry so much about how this may affect the sound. Paying attention to the ergonomics and weight of the instrument will be far more fruitful."
I think it's sound advice but I'm inexperienced in guitar building so my perspective is skewed.
Denim.
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9th September 2013, 08:26 PM #17Member
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Amen.
ive used all kinda of #### that a lot of 'tone wood snobs' would definitely turn their nose up at. I don't think my axes are world class at all. But I love em and they're mine. And I make em real cheap
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9th September 2013, 09:01 PM #18
There are those who will argue that unless you build with old growth Dalbergia Unobtainiata your instrument will never measure up. And great makers build demo instruments out of "low grade" timbers but they don't seem to put them into production. This argument has absorbed a lot of time and energy on this forum.
There is always the next build )"We must never become callous. When we experience the conflicts ever more deeply we are living in truth. The quiet conscience is an invention of the devil." - Albert Schweizer
My blog. http://theupanddownblog.blogspot.com
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11th September 2013, 02:58 AM #19New Member
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Cnc differnt woods - same guitar
Ive heard the same argument over and over again.
Each argument,one says this wood is best, that wood is poor etc etc.
what a wonderful thing it would be if someone could put several different types of wood through a CNC machine to create exactly the same guitars.
If the guitar was say a strat type with scratch plate mounted electronics so it could be easy to swap electronics over - then we could see/hear the difference !
If I had to guess (and it is a guess) I bet you can get a nice sound out of practically any wood, as long as it has decent pick ups!
just my thoughts but im sure someone will argue the difference!
Jason
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11th September 2013, 08:41 AM #20
To rehash some previous conversation. An instrument is not only its sonic qualities. It is its provenance, its condition, its aesthetics, its playing condition and its "mojo". To separate it from any of these factors devalues the whole experience that is owning and playing an instrument. Even expert players cant tell a Strad from a modern copy (see Player preferences among new and old violins) and I am sure that goes for revery possible combination of tonewood, playing style, strings and age of strings, amp, speakers, hall you are playing in and whether you have recovered from Deafcon yet.
Part of Perrys mojo is a no Jarrah policy, Ormsby guitars are highly desirable and have mojo to spare. My pallet wood uke is gathering dust.
BTW Denim, Liutaio Mottolas page is one of my go to pages when thinking out new ideas. Liutaio Mottola Lutherie Information Website"We must never become callous. When we experience the conflicts ever more deeply we are living in truth. The quiet conscience is an invention of the devil." - Albert Schweizer
My blog. http://theupanddownblog.blogspot.com
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11th September 2013, 08:45 PM #21
Thanks for the link Sebastaan, I've also visited his site a few times now and find it very interesting.
Denim
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16th September 2013, 09:50 PM #22
Working on the neck took a back seat over the last week due to bathroom renovations. Last weekend I got a little done and managed to build a table saw sled for the 10º cut.
I trimmed down the sides of the maple so the total width of the neck is now 100 mm but I have run into a problem. The table saw won't cut the entire width of the board in one pass. Has anyone got any tips on how to do this?
I could do one pass, then cut the rest with a handsaw and plane the left overs flat which I think is fine to do but I just want to check for any alternative methods before I do this.
Denim
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17th September 2013, 12:48 AM #23Member
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I cut my first scarf joint with nothing but a hand saw. As long as you make sure you keep cutting at 90 degrees you'll be fine. I then threw both pieces onto my belt sander to even it out.
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17th September 2013, 10:11 AM #24
This is what I do. It doesn't hurt to get handy with a handsaw and a plane. I actually still hand cut many of the scarf joints on my acoustics....sometimes I just cant be bothered getting the tale saw set up.
You can do the entire cut on a bandsaw but a jig is needed and the saw has to be well set up.Whatever note you blow youre never more than a semitone away from the correct one....(Miles Davis)
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17th September 2013, 12:02 PM #26Senior Member
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And ultimately, they do. But its the base that provides the nuances we search for. Otherwise, if it makes no difference, give me a call, Id love to build you an MDF guitar.
Try putting strat pickups in a Les Paul and see if it sounds like the strat they came from.
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Can i get one with a figured plywood top? AAA grade of course.
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