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30th January 2010, 12:51 AM #1Novice
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Plans for First (tele-based) build
First of all, hello everyone, nice to meet you all I'm Dean recent tele-holic interested in building my own guitar.
I've spent a few weeks on and off designing a nice guitar based heavily on the tele with abit of danelectro thrown in, two guitars that I liked the look of. I've bought a cheap "artist" brand tele from Home, its a made in china no name my plan was to use the electronics, neck and parts from this for my new guitar.
I was thinking of buying the student wood blank from gilet guitars. My only real problem is that the only tools I have (at least at the moment) are a hand held power drill, soldering iron, and some sandpaper. I don't really have a workbench either.
My question is, is there anywhere around Sydney or Berowra (near Hornsby) where I live that I would be able to cut out my guitar shape and maybe rout the body. I was thinking of buying some forstner bits and a chisel and doing the body cavities that way and a drum sander for the body routing but I dont have any other way to cut the body, maybe a saw of some sort?
Thank in advance for your help guys
P.S. Those are pictures of my design and the guitar I want to butcher
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30th January 2010, 11:39 AM #2Apprentice
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looks to me like the guitar body you have is very similar to the guitar body shape you want ....looks like cutting off tht lower horn ...and rounding the end
so...i would question...if there is any need to get a separate body blank ...espc given the limited tools at yer disposal
now, you can modify the existing body to the shape you want (by cutting with handsaw and finishing off with some sort of drum sander attached to yer drill or by hand+sandpaper) and if you wish it to have a different colour then a stripping off of the old finish is typically in order
the different colour can be accomplished by spray cans ...automotive stuff
the different pickguard can be made from a separate sheet/pickguard blank and this can be cutted out using handsaw/fretsaw and finished off with your sandpaper
handsaws and the like can be gotten from local h/w storeLooking for
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30th January 2010, 11:46 AM #3Novice
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Hey, thanks for the reply. I was thinking of using the body I already have, but it has a poly/nitro finish which I've heard are really difficult to remove in any conventional sense. So I figured I'd sell the body as it is on ebay and just try my own, since that way I would actually have built it myself (the body at least)
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30th January 2010, 11:56 AM #4Apprentice
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heh ...ok
well if you start off with a body blank ...you will need something to cut the shape ...typically this is a bandsaw...though i have seen ppl do it with a jigsaw and even a router
*you can do it by hand but the results might prove distressing both in outcome and in effort expended
after body shape is cut out ...you will then need to rout the holes for your pickups and control thingamajigs
this requires a router though some have performed this task with a chisel ...again see point *
then you will need to drill perpendicular holes for bolts and ferrules and so on
this usually requires a drill press ....howeva...once again ...can be done by hand but see point *
so all the way along the line ...hand tools can be used but the cost will be accuracy/look of the cut/additional work
however if you are at the point of embarkation upon a new hobby tht will sustain you for yrs ....then ...regrettably....you might have to consider some longterm planning and maybe buy them tools one step at a time
this is wht most insane hobbyists do btwLooking for
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30th January 2010, 12:01 PM #5Novice
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Hah yeh, so I've seen I wanted to try and do it on the cheap, with limited tools and hand tools, so I guess I'll need to take a trip to bunnings in the near future
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30th January 2010, 12:13 PM #6Apprentice
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well...i have built complete electric guitars using a workmate, router, hand drill and dremel
i had to bring to cabinet maker to do bandsaw cuts and perpendicular drilling
but i have purchased a bandsaw and drill press cos i am too lazy to make frequent trips out of me house
i would estimate the total cost of me machinery plus attachments to be no more than an above average computer system ~2-3k
which is prob the foundation of many a hobby for idle young lads these daysLooking for
1. fiddleback mulga - 1" thick, 3"wide, 26" long
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30th January 2010, 12:18 PM #7Novice
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yeah for that price I could buy a nice Cole Clark Culprit hah, but you say you went to a cabinet maker to do cuts for you? did you need to pay them or did you know them ?
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30th January 2010, 12:26 PM #8Apprentice
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yup...i paid cabinetmaker 20 bux each time
i asked first if he could do it (no...i did not know cabinet maker at all...i just turned up to workshop and asked) ...and how much it might cost
he would check his schedule and do wht i wanted done...prob no more than 20 mins each time ...so i take it tht it is about a dolla a minute
things might be different where you are at ...but i cant see any harm in askingLooking for
1. fiddleback mulga - 1" thick, 3"wide, 26" long
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30th January 2010, 12:31 PM #9Novice
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Yeah thats a good idea, thanks for that I think the body cutout is the most difficult bit for what I have at the moment. I've seen routing done with forstner bits on drills and chisels so I'll have abit of work ahead, thanks again
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30th January 2010, 12:35 PM #10Apprentice
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ma pleasure
the frostner bits/spade bits on a drill to remove large chunks technique usually require a router phase after to make clean cuts at the edges btw
and also tht technique is usually done on a drill press....to maintain a somewht even depth of 'rout'Looking for
1. fiddleback mulga - 1" thick, 3"wide, 26" long
PM if you have for sale!
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30th January 2010, 12:38 PM #11Novice
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hmm really, so if done with a hand drill it would make a mess? Maybe I'm getting myself into more then a bargained for
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30th January 2010, 12:44 PM #12Apprentice
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the usual rule is
the less stable the mount of a machine the less accurate the machining
thus ...stability is key to accuracy w.r.t. machining
anything hand-held is subject to the non-machine/unstable nature of the human hand....Looking for
1. fiddleback mulga - 1" thick, 3"wide, 26" long
PM if you have for sale!
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30th January 2010, 12:47 PM #13Novice
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so if i built with what i have now do you think it would be an inferior guitar?
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30th January 2010, 12:53 PM #14Apprentice
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well...i would hesitate to predict anything....
but with a 'hand drill, soldering iron and sandpaper' the chances of the outcome being wht you desire might be quite small ...
which is not to say the guitar will be unusable ...but tht it might not be as initially desired...Looking for
1. fiddleback mulga - 1" thick, 3"wide, 26" long
PM if you have for sale!
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30th January 2010, 12:58 PM #15Novice
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well I would add drum sanding drill bits, hand saw and chisels to that list of tools, buying them cheaply at Bunnings
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