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29th June 2008, 07:15 PM #1Awaiting Email Confirmation
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plugging & re-drilling neck pocket holes
Hi.
I am reworking s DIY bolt on neck to use threaded inserts.
It has an angled neck pocket.
Whereas with wood screws it was OK to drill straight through at 90deg to the back & let the wood screws bite, I figure the new holes will need to be at 90deg to the bottom surface of the neck ie the inner angled surface of the neck pocket.
I feel plugging & re-drilling the holes in the neck pocket would be safest.
But my dowling is too thin, & the other bit too thick.
So How do I 'thickness' dowling to get the right diameter?
Also is there another way instead of plugging & re-drilling?
Could I pack in some sort of epoxy & re drill after it hardens?...well I could..but would it work well?
Is there some other better way?
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29th June 2008, 07:27 PM #2
Stick your piece of dowel in a drill press and sand it down to size. Alternatively drill out the hole that's going to be plugged to the appropriate size. Glue it in with plenty of two pack epoxy and let it dry nice and hard, then drill and fit the inserts...
From your description of what you have that's what I would do, its a little hard to say without seeing what your trying to achieve. Good luck...Jack of all trades, Professional of none.
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29th June 2008, 11:47 PM #3SENIOR MEMBER
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im not quite sure what you mean, but dowel wont hold threads very well as you are threading the screw cutting the grain. you need plugs, or a plugcutter to make one if you want to hold threads in the hole.
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30th June 2008, 08:01 AM #5Awaiting Email Confirmation
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I didn't describe things well enough.
The inserts are OK - all well set in the neck - no dowelling.
I have to re drill the holes in the body of the guitar - the neck pocket - to be larger dia and also to angle them off about 2 deg since it is an angled neck pocket. So the screws will be passing straight through.
Actually while fiddling about I found that the larger dowelling fits a 15/64 hole really well.
I am just a bit paranoid about drilling out the existing holes because of their proximity to the sides of the neck pocket.
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30th June 2008, 11:30 PM #6
Perhaps putting the inserts in at the required angle?
I assume that the inserts are now flush and perpendicular to the bottom of the neck? Hows about plugging those holes in the neck with a plug cutter plug, not dowel as the grain will be perpendicular to the neck, then rebate the new holes so that you have a flat surface parallel to the body socket. Get it?
You're going to have to do this on your body side anyway as the bolts will be skewed by the neck angle.
I dont think those few degrees should be too much.
Just a thought...Cheers!Mongrel
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1st July 2008, 12:55 AM #7
its awkward trying to have the screws angled with inserts
they will be set on the neck plate tight down on one side
thats apart from getting em at the right angle
plug the holes redrill and use screwsray c
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1st July 2008, 07:26 AM #8Awaiting Email Confirmation
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Well you're right. Those few degress don't matter much.
I drilled out the holes ready to plug & out of curiousity set the neck in the pocket and fiddled about to see if the screws took hold and LO & BEhold I could finger tighten them easily....no plug no dowelling...just tighten 'er up.
I worry too much
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