Thanks Thanks:  0
Likes Likes:  0
Needs Pictures Needs Pictures:  0
Picture(s) thanks Picture(s) thanks:  0
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 34
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Canungra Qld
    Age
    66
    Posts
    34

    Default Which way to scarf?

    Just wondering if there is a right or wrong way to do a scarf joint.
    I have made a couple of necks using "method A" in the attached jpeg.

    I have gone this way because I feel the fingerboard "sandwiches" the headstock with the neck and this makes for a safer joint.

    But....I have noticed quite a bit across forums and searches on the net that "method B" seems popular.

    Am I ok doing it way I have?...and does it really matter?




    cheers...Wayne
    A man who asks is a fool for five minutes. A man who never asks is a fool for life. - Chinese Proverb
    www.wayneranson.com

  2. # ADS
    Google Adsense Advertisement
    Join Date
    Always
    Location
    Advertising world
    Age
    2010
    Posts
    Many





     
  3. #2
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Perth Aus
    Posts
    577

    Default

    i am about to do method B for the first time

    cos the neck will not have a separate fingerboard but the 3-a-side tuner set i got sort of demands a tilted back headstock

    i have done method A before and tht worked well

    i don't see why method B would not be as good as method A given tht glue used is stronger than wood
    Looking for

    1. fiddleback mulga - 1" thick, 3"wide, 26" long

    PM if you have for sale!

  4. #3
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Blue Mountains
    Posts
    2,613

    Default

    I use B. The reason is that the force on the head gets transferred down the neck where I have the reinforcement rather then through the fingerboard. I use a 15 degree scarf. I tend to make mostly 8 string instruments like Mandolins and Mandolas.

    Does it really matter? depends on your timber and the thickness of the fretboard I suppose....
    "We must never become callous. When we experience the conflicts ever more deeply we are living in truth. The quiet conscience is an invention of the devil." - Albert Schweizer

    My blog. http://theupanddownblog.blogspot.com

  5. #4
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    sydney
    Posts
    2,370

    Default

    i use A, 15 degree scarf.
    looks better to me,

    but as said below by sebastiaan, depends on your stock... and the look your going for...

    B would need a faceplate to cover the joint

  6. #5
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Newark, Ohio, USA
    Posts
    130

    Default

    I used the A method with a twist, I`ve incorporated a sliding wedge dovetail in my joints, that way I`m not relying on glue alone to hold it together.Attachment 128070

  7. #6
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    sydney
    Posts
    2,370

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Heartstrings View Post
    I used the A method with a twist, I`ve incorporated a sliding wedge dovetail in my joints, that way I`m not relying on glue alone to hold it together.Attachment 128070
    interesting...

    process pics are needed



    also, iv always liked the different timber headstock idea....
    once i get my hands on some figured stuff i will start doing it

  8. #7
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Canungra Qld
    Age
    66
    Posts
    34

    Default

    Thanks for you input guys.


    I think I will stick with "A" as I just like the look and as Andy says I would have to veneer or paint the face to hide the joint if I went with "B:



    cheers...Wayne
    A man who asks is a fool for five minutes. A man who never asks is a fool for life. - Chinese Proverb
    www.wayneranson.com

  9. #8
    Join Date
    Jun 1999
    Location
    Cheshire England
    Age
    71
    Posts
    252

    Default

    I have always gone for method A at 15 degrees. I have a large block, longer than a bass neck and wider than a neck, with the 15 degree angle at one end that I can use for planing the scarfe and clamping the 2 pieces, as well as a jig for holding the neck when routing the trussrod, and clamping the fingerboard and fretting.

  10. #9
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Canungra Qld
    Age
    66
    Posts
    34

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Wingate View Post
    I have always gone for method A at 15 degrees. I have a large block, longer than a bass neck and wider than a neck, with the 15 degree angle at one end that I can use for planing the scarfe and clamping the 2 pieces, as well as a jig for holding the neck when routing the trussrod, and clamping the fingerboard and fretting.
    Any chance you would have a picture of that?


    cheers...Wayne
    A man who asks is a fool for five minutes. A man who never asks is a fool for life. - Chinese Proverb
    www.wayneranson.com

  11. #10
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    sydney
    Posts
    2,370

    Default

    we had a discussion here a month or so ago abot it, dont remember which thread though

    https://www.woodworkforums.com/f98/gl...joints-110965/

  12. #11
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Newark, Ohio, USA
    Posts
    130

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew_B View Post
    interesting...

    process pics are needed



    also, iv always liked the different timber headstock idea....
    once i get my hands on some figured stuff i will start doing it
    I`ll try to take some later, at the time I built the jig I did`nt give any thought to taking photos. When I was looking for a better way to construct a neck I built several using methods currently employed by the major manufactures then slammed them on the concrete floor to see which ones broke the easiest. I`m happy to say that with my design the joint stayed intact after several whacks, the others only took one blow to snap the peghead from the neck. Mike

  13. #12
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Bagdad Tasmania
    Age
    77
    Posts
    1,504

    Default Which way to scarf

    This is what I love about this forum.
    Share of idea there to help others.
    Cheers,Bob

    Quote Originally Posted by Heartstrings View Post
    I`ll try to take some later, at the time I built the jig I did`nt give any thought to taking photos. When I was looking for a better way to construct a neck I built several using methods currently employed by the major manufactures then slammed them on the concrete floor to see which ones broke the easiest. I`m happy to say that with my design the joint stayed intact after several whacks, the others only took one blow to snap the peghead from the neck. Mike

  14. #13
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    sydney
    Posts
    2,370

    Default

    Pics!!!

  15. #14
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Bagdad Tasmania
    Age
    77
    Posts
    1,504

    Default Which way to scarf

    Shut Up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew_B View Post
    Pics!!! :d

  16. #15
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    sydney
    Posts
    2,370

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by woodturner777 View Post
    Shut Up.
    you shut up, and SEND ME WOOD.

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. gluing scarf joints.....
    By Andrew_B in forum MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: 6th January 2010, 03:30 AM
  2. Veneer Glues and Scarf Joints
    By stevec1234 in forum WOODWORK - GENERAL
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 12th January 2009, 08:39 AM
  3. as promised scarf holder
    By killerbeast in forum WOODTURNING - GENERAL
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 14th December 2007, 11:31 PM
  4. Scarf joint jigs - cutting and glueing
    By JupiterCreek in forum MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 15th November 2006, 09:01 AM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •