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Thread: Short Scale 6 string planning
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24th June 2008, 08:33 PM #1
Short Scale 6 string planning
Hi everyone.
Next build is to be a left hand Tele style guitar, neck thru solid body. I'm wanting to do a short scale @ 23.361inch. (chopping the first fret off a SMD board). Has anyone done something similar?
Are there any issues I need to think about during the planning stage?
I am especially concerned about the bridge placement effecting the playability. I'd expect the tone to bit a bot more bassy.
Any thoughts
BBM
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25th June 2008, 10:49 AM #2
Are you aiming to have a normal neck with one less fret, or a small neck with the right number of frets? If you're just chopping off the end fret, then your body should be able to stay the same as you're just, in effect putting a capo on the first fret and tuning down a semitone. (did I explain that right?) If you're shrinking the neck, and keeping the same number of frets then the whole bridge should be located properly - see stewmacs bridge calculators for an idea.
Remember too that a tele bridge has a fixed bridge p'up position. If you shorten the neck, then you are effectivly moving the pickup away from the bridge, taking some of that classic "tele twang" out of the sound. To me, a tele only sounds like a tele with a 25.5" neck IMHO, but maybe thats not the sound you're looking for???
Food for thoughtCheers!Mongrel
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25th June 2008, 03:03 PM #3SENIOR MEMBER
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seems like there isnt much to add. to this. if your making your own body you could make a few changes to compensate for this, and have more frets. but this would be changing the design.
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25th June 2008, 04:30 PM #4
thanks
Thanks for the response guys.
I'm a fan of the shape but not much for the twang. I'm looking at a rhythm sound, I love the 70's 80's classic rock.
The shorter scale will effect the sound, based on my experience building a short scale bass.
My concerns were with bridge placement and then the playing angle and comfort. I had in mind to use a Schaller roller bridge (non trem), so the pup placement isn't fixed.
I suppose it'll sort out when I draw it up.
Thanks
BBM
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From memory Melvin Hiscock's book details the build of a mahogany bodied tele with a flame maple top and 2 humbuckers. I have dubbed this concept the "Paulocaster". I haven't ever played this type of instument, but imagine it to look like a tele but sound a lot like a Les Paul. Not a bad combo in my books.
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25th June 2008, 05:20 PM #6
sounds exactly what I'm after.
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25th June 2008, 07:05 PM #7Cheers!Mongrel
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25th June 2008, 07:55 PM #8
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26th June 2008, 04:49 AM #9SENIOR MEMBER
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26th June 2008, 01:23 PM #10
LP junior or what i call a lesocaster
bolt on shortscale neck 24.75
tele hardware
but if you dont want twang dont do it
the hardware is what does it - pickups n bridge
may as well go and build a lp junior or standard and be done with itray c
dunno what's more fun, buyin' the tools or usin' em'
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26th June 2008, 07:19 PM #11
I think you guys have talked me out of it.
I'll stick with the Paulocaster concept with small twist.
24.75scale (I've got a board ready to go)
neck thru & wings - tele shape
2 HB's and toggle, 4 knobs
a la
Keith Richards 73 Deluxe
Will let you know hot it goes.
The LP will be after that one (left handed as well)
BBM
By the way, a long time ago I was playing in a covers band, and we had a gig with CANNED HEAT. I was playing bass at the time and had an Ibanez Roadster Series. We were in the warm up room with CH and their bass player leaned over and showed some curiousity at my bass. He held and laughed, he called it a toy and offered me his to hold. Well, it was a heavy as SH*T. His opinion, the heavier the better (he was too), Ever since, I have not minded heavier guitars as long as the sound was right.Last edited by bassbuilderman; 26th June 2008 at 07:24 PM. Reason: After thought
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