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    Hi

    The 1940's Cash horizontal milling machine I have here.


    The table surface is rusty and it needs to be resurfaced . What is the best thing to do ? Take it to a machine shop and have the surface planed ? Would that be accurate enough ? Or would it need to be ground on a large grinder ? Would need a reference to get the table flat , eg the dovetail ways underneath the table .

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    Hi Mike

    Have you got a pic of the table
    cast can sometimes clean up real well I use the flat edge of my sandvik carbide scraper to lightly scrape off the rust it does a very good job you do need to be carefully not to bite into the cast though
    you may have trouble finding a machine shop with a planer but they should be accurate enough to do the job well
    here is a before and after of the scraper method
    DSC_7533-2896.jpg
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    cheers
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    OK thanks your scraping looks very good


    One thing that concerns me is , over time the cast iron may have changed dimensionally .
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    Give it a clean up like Harty has suggested and then give it a run over with a dial indicator.

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    Hi Mike

    it looks not to bad to me i would clean it up and run a dial indicator over it to see where your at
    the table in the photos above is off my tool and cutter grinder it still hold .0001" over the full travel of the table and that is a tenth of a thou not 1 thou it takes a lot of rust to change cast dimentionally
    you will have more wear from people putting tools on the table i reckon
    let me know if you want more details on the scraper. You can use a old file with the end modified also

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    beat me to it dave

    cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by harty69 View Post
    Hi Mike


    let me know if you want more details on the scraper. You can use a old file with the end modified also

    cheers
    Harty

    A pic or drawing of the scraper would be nice . I guess it would have a shallow radius on the blade ?

    Mike

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    Hi Mike i did a video instead hope it helps


    cheers
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    Great ..... I will have a look at the library .... no ADSL here .... wireless is too dear

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    You could also use a piece of HSS if you dont have the scraper or an old file.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pipeclay View Post
    You could also use a piece of HSS if you dont have the scraper or an old file.
    yep that would work well also you just need to remember to round the corners slightly so they dont bite in but keep the sharp edge if that makes sense

    practice on a scrap piece before you attack you mill

    cheers
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    Mike, if you want to be different, Ewan makes an interesting suggestion in this post -

    https://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/we...ml#post1594181

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael G View Post
    Mike, if you want to be different, Ewan makes an interesting suggestion in this post -

    https://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/we...ml#post1594181

    Michael
    Interesting, the paper towel between the table and the metal sheet soaked in the electrolyte .... yes might give that a try

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    I'd use an axe stone and some kero to clean it up.
    Scraping it to remove surface rust?

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    CLubman,
    stone and kero will work - no doubt. By the time you have it clean, you won't however be able to sure if you haven't taken a 1/10th off here and there. Using a shark scraper as Peter (harty69) shows in the video, you CAN be sure you haven't taken any metal off. He did NOT scrape the metal at all. Peter has sone the scraping course and would instantly FEEL if he touches the metal. The other thing is that scaping the rust off followed by a 3M pad is by far the fastest method I know.
    I've seen the result of Peter's efforts: it looks great.
    Cheers,
    Joe
    9"thicknesser/planer, 12" bench saw, 2Hp Dusty, 5/8" Drill press, 10" Makita drop saw, 2Hp Makita outer, the usual power tools and carpentry hand tools...

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