Thread: Monday night Show'n'Tell

Originally Posted by WVB

Can anyone tell me what markings the 113 circular should have on its iron? It has a Stanley Australia iron at the moment and I would like to find a correct iron and also know if it should have a 'Stanley Made in USA' or the 'Sweetheart' logo type?

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Looking at the lever-cap (and assuming it's original), it has the kidney shapped hole which makes it 1933 or later. The 113 went out of production in 1942 (according to Blood & Gore). During that 10 year period Stanley cutting irons were marked "STANLEY, MADE IN USA" in two lines (according to Rex Mill).

HTH.

Cheers, Vann.

(I know it uses the same iron as a #3 smoother).

I have a feeling the compass plane irons are longer than the no 3 and 5 1/4.

I have a few in my spares, I'll throw a tape on em when I get time.

H

Originally Posted by clear out

I have a feeling the compass plane irons are longer than the no 3 and 5 1/4.

I'm fairly sure it's the cap-iron on the #113 (& #20) that's longer than on a #3 (& #5¼). The cutting iron is standard length (7" new).

Cheers, Vann.

Originally Posted by Vann

I'm fairly sure it's the cap-iron on the #113 (& #20) that's longer than on a #3 (& #5¼). The cutting iron is standard length (7" new).

Cheers, Vann.

Threw a tape over the spare irons and they are 7 1/4!
They are new 'made in England'.
This got me wondering.
Dug out my sad 113 and not only is it a full 7 1/4 but it has been used and sharpened.
So what was the original length of these irons? This is a sweetheart iron.
I guess we need someone with a mint in the box example to jump in here.
H.

Originally Posted by Vann

I'm fairly sure it's the cap-iron on the #113 (& #20) that's longer than on a #3 (& #5¼). The cutting iron is standard length (7" new).

Cheers, Vann.

According the patrick's blood n gore the cap irons are unique to the 113 circular
(and possibly the #20s) but the cutting irons are the same. I assume the backing irons are too?
Apparently you cannot set blade and I quote;

<The slot in the cap iron is located higher up on the compass planes than it is on the bench planes. If a #3 cap iron is used on this plane, it's impossible to get a satisfactory set on the iron>.

The Stanley Australia cutter thats currently installed in my#113 is 165mm (6-1/2") long and 45mm (1-3/4") wide and fits perfectly buts its incorrect.

Either way if anyone has an excellent 'Stanley Made in USA' cutter i would happy to hear.

Originally Posted by WVB

According the patrick's blood n gore the cap irons are unique to the 113 circular
(and possibly the #20s) but the cutting irons are the same. I assume the backing irons are too?
Apparently you cannot set blade and I quote;

<The slot in the cap iron is located higher up on the compass planes than it is on the bench planes. If a #3 cap iron is used on this plane, it's impossible to get a satisfactory set on the iron>.

The Stanley Australia cutter thats currently installed in my#113 is 165mm (6-1/2") long and 45mm (1-3/4") wide and fits perfectly buts its incorrect.

Either way if anyone has an excellent 'Stanley Made in USA' cutter i would happy to hear.

oh hang on......
I'm confusing myself (and everyone else i expect)with my Plane terminology. Sorry.

Backing Iron = Cap Iron and NOT Lever Cap.....right?
I would say the Cap Iron is original as I can adjust the depth nicely if i consider B&Gs reference.
Also, FYI its exactly the same width as the Australian Cutter iron at 1-3/4" wide.

Originally Posted by Vann

The cutting iron is standard length (7" new).

I have to confess, I got this info from the Record site Record Hand Planes.

Record generally slavishly copied Stanley planes right down to the non-standard threads, however it is possible that new Record cutting-irons are slightly shorter than new Stanley cutting-irons of the time, or that the website is not 100% correct. But I know for sure that any #3, #03, #5¼, #113, #20, #020 or #020c iron will fit (i.e. they're interchangable), so any "STANLEY" "MADE IN USA" iron will be correct for your #113.

It's the cap-iron that's different - and I believe you've still got the original.

I think that the lever caps are also interchangeable across the fleet (but I should check when I get home tonight).

Cheers, Vann

I felt like I should run away, like a scalded cat, when I got these for $55.

5 x Disston's (and they all look like the etch will come up),
Taylor Brothers backsaw (which I got for the handle design),
Unknown hacksaw that has a 9 point per inch crosscut timber blade, and
Spokeshaves - 1 straight edge and then 3 with progressively 'rounder' blades.

(I only went in to see if they had a reasonably priced drawknife for a mate who makes bows!)



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Nice haul Clinton. All the saws seem to have plenty of life left in them too. I notice no drawknife Forgot to look did you

heh, heh, nah I did look but could not see one... However he will take at least one of the spokeshaves (although he doesn't know he needs one yet)

Spekky haul if I do say so myself.

Hi Clinton,
I have a Hack Saw? similar to that one you have, but I am lead to believe that it is a Meat Saw.
What say the rest of you.

Originally Posted by issatree

Hi Clinton,
I have a Hack Saw? similar to that one you have, but I am lead to believe that it is a Meat Saw.
What say the rest of you.

Used to have a meat saw (well bone saw) just like that but a bit cleaner.

Yep, just like all the meat-saws I ever met (though they're really for cutting bone, as Jim said; you usually use a knife for cutting the meat ). The ones I used were cleaner when I began using them, but often not too clean when the job was done....
Cheers,

Used to kill and dress my own beasts.

No sissy bone saw for me!

Used the chainsaw!!!